Credits

• List of websites and organizations mentioned
• PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
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Interview with Michael Reeder about Psychology and Paganism

Credits

• List of websites and organizations mentioned
• PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
• Season 11 Credits

Interview with Jason Pitzl-Waters

Credits

• List of websites and organizations mentioned
• PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Branden - A Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • Barbara - A Native American in North Carolina
  • James - A Left Hand Path Practitioner in New York

• Today we'll be continuing our exploration of the Left-Hand Path and Satanism with our resident Satanist and a guest host on the subject.

• Myths about Satanism
  • "Satanism is just an inversion of Christianity"
• Satanic Magick
  • Psychodrama: Magick is all about the "mood"
    • Satanic ritual is used as a method of triggering an emotional response intense enough to attain the magic user's goals.
  • Lesser Magick: Manipulating people, using your physical body and its physical attributes to meet your goals.
    • Manipulating the physical world with your physical body
    • Lavey's "The Satanic Witch"
  • High Magick: Manipulating the physical world through metaphysical means. Use of ritual and psychic energy to attain your goals.
    • Destruction Ritual: Used for destruction of an enemy, type of magic Satanists are most well known for.
    • Compassion Ritual: used to help/heal oneself or a loved one.
• Satanic Organizations
  • Church of Satan: Most well known, started by Lavey.
    • Official Site for Church of Satan
  • Temple of Set: Former member of the Cos Micheal Aquino broke off from the CoS to form this group. Aquino is said to have received direct contact with the Egyptian deity Set to create this group.
    • Major focus on intellectual development also known as Xepher, to become.
    • Official Site for Temple of Set
  • Joy of Satan: Internet based group, claim to have largest e-mailing list. Theistic Satanists, believe Satan to be actual entity. Ties to fascist organizations. Conspiracy theorists of the Left Hand Path. Very diverse interests.
    • Official Joy of Satan Site
• Satanic and LHP Further Reading
  • The Satanic Bible, The Satanic Rituals, The Satanic Witch, Lords of the Left Hand Path, Might is Right, Mysteries of the Temple of Set, Liber Null / Psychonaut, Liber Kaos, History of the Church of Satan, Black Magick in Theory and Practice, Dark Arts in Immortality, Prometheus Rising, Pacts With the Devil, Daemons of the Flesh, Yoga of Power
• Satanic Discussion
  • Why does Lavey bother calling Lesser Magick, magick?
  • Satanic position on the use of magic vs. the Pagan's.
  • The importance of Lesser Magick
  • Views on Life

• We've discussed this in private many times, but mind sharing with our listeners why it's called Satanism?
• What are the 9 Satanic Sins? Are there any other moral codes for Satanists to consider following?
• What's this Law of the Jungle thing?
• Why can't we treat Satanists roughly? Meaning, why show common courtesy if they're just going to use us?
• So that people can understand some Satanic jokes, mind explaining to us what a Satanic Altar consists of?

• Barrett A. Writes:

  hey guys i just have a question for the resident satanist. Before I ask i want to make it very clear the only contact with satanism i have had has been this pod-cast. My question is does Satan actually come up in your religion or is the name just there because of the obvious enjoyment satanist's (and the general pagan community) have in the pursuit of pissing of christians, and if Satan does come up can you really consider it paganism or would it be just a really messed up denomination of christianity, this question is not ment to piss you off its just a question. you rule ashley thanks for what ever info you can provide

• Punkwitch Writes:

  Love you guys!! I have a thought. Who is truely the liar? Given all the lies and evil put out by the Xstian church over the years. Is the god that the worship truly their "God"? By this I mean through their own scriptures they proclaim Satan to be the father of lies. In all dealings I have had with Satanists they have always been up front and honest with me on most if not all fronts. I know that in the Satanic church "Satan" is not necessarily seen as a God, nut more of an ideal. But ideas come from somewhere don't they? Just a thought. Keep it up!!!

• ReannaMarie Tweets:

  Have any good web links? Would love to take some classes.TY.

• Travis King Tweets:

  Do babies taste good?

• Travis Writes on MySpace:

  Dear PCP,

  I find your topics amusing and delicious. It's a lovely retreat from the bible-belters in my military community of Ramstein, Germany.

  -Travis

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Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Branden - A Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • Barbara - A Native American in North Carolina
  • James - A Left Hand Path Practitioner in New York

• Today we'll be exploring Satanism with our resident Satanist and a guest host on the subject.

• You're Listening to PCP...

• Inspiration Article in the NY Post last month about a sixteen year old boy who killed a news reporter and claimed to be a follower of LaVey on his myspace page. Post labled this individual as a "Satan worshipper."Sex Date With The Devil Article
• Introduction and Background
  • Name and experience with Satanism (how you got into Satanism).
  • Special guest: James. Personal friend of mine and co creator of this episode.
• History of Satanism
  • Satanism in America
• Anton Szandor Lavey
  • Credited as the founder of Satanism
  • Started the first Church of Satan
  • Wrote "The Satanic Bible," a cornerstone of mainstream
• Satanic belief
  • Basics of Satanic Belief: The Law of the Jungle
  • The Nine Satanic Statements
  • The Infernal Diatrabe

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Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Branden - A Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • Barbara - A Native American in North Carolina

• You're Listening to PCP...

• Gypsyhooker asks via Twitter: I've always wondered how Native Amer feel about the dippy hippie types co-opting various parts of their spiritual practices

• Lindsey Writes:

  Hey, i was thinking for maybe one episode if you could maybe talk about teens in paganism thank yall and just wanted to say i adore all the episodes and always recomend yall to anyone who is interested to paganism ^_^ you have gotten me through days and days of school classes lol

• Blackheartgary Writes:

  I wanted to first say that since i discovered PCP back around episode 86 (which btw i do believe mr. Elwood needs to find a new hobby seeing as how creating belief structures out of thin air isn't really working for him but whichever) I have grown to love and anticipate each episode, as the four (or more) of you have not only brought some fresh insights about the pagan community but have done so in a manner that absolutely does not suck. too many times have i visited "worshops" or read books or listened to spoken word about the happenings in our community and come home with the worry that several arteries will suddenly burst out of my head. listening to PCP somehow doesn't do that for me, quite the opposite. so kudos to PCP for being the kickass lords(and ladies) of my world. and now for the question i have. my 6 year old is coming to the point in her life that she is beginning to question everything around her. having the majority of my family being christian doesn't help, since their answer to everything is "god made this for you" or "thank God for this". God shmod. I have been looking into ways of explaining things to my daughter from my perspective, as a ecletic pagan with very heavy shamanic backgrounds. How do we as parents teach our children to accept that it might not be God, but perhaps something else is at work? and How can i do this without bringing something wicked into her life?

• PheonixSong

  yall are f-ing awsome. it is great to hear a group of pagans round my age being able speak so candidly about their beliefs. i live smack dab in the middle of the bible belt so your sho brings a welcome get away from the christian bs that i have to deal with every day. many kudos and may the gods be with you in your efforts.

• Myth Writes

  Something to make fun of, or generally give an opinion of one way or three others.

  http://www.angelfire.com/va/myth420

• Brendan in Toledo Writes on our Facebook Group:

  Hey everyone, I just wanted to say that I love the show. I think you guys are doing a great thing and its refreshing to listen to a podcast that delves much deeper into topics concerning paganism than most, if not all, of the other pagan podcasts out there. You guys really know how to break apart a topic and get down to bone on issues that are really popular in the pagan community today. Anyways, keep up the great work. I'm looking forward to some new episodes.

• PhoenixSong on MySpace Writes:

  Your show rocks my socks.
  Yall are f@#$ing awsome!

• Myth024 writes:

  paganspace, myspace, all the evil out there. People are trying to make a connection. Unfortunately, someone realized you can make money by doing this. So they let all the idiots in. Also, with all the various belief systems within the pagan "umbrella" there doesn't appear to be any solid "moral" code. Yes, do what you will tho it harm none etc.. But nothing that is universally accepted. So is it no wonder paganspace and other derivatives thrive? As can be said of any religious belief system, it will always attract at least one idiot. Intelligent conversation, requires intelligent people. Unfortunately after looking through most of the "other" forums, it appears that your podcast has them all. :)

• From the Wild Hunt Blog: Christian newspaper says Wicca is Soft-Core Occultism. Uhm, yeah... and? Sure the fundies are being nuts, but they got a point.
• From Fark: The Pope, who has his own radio station, TV station, YouTube channel, and over 30,000 MySpace friends, warns of the perils of media overconsumption - get up, get out and do something!

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Final Thoughts

Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Branden - A Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • Barbara - A Native American in North Carolina

• We now have an Assets and Asses board to commemorate those that help our community and those that work against us and need to be publicly ostracized for doing so. If you have any recommendations for our Assets and Asses board, just submit them on the feedback section of our website.

• You're Listening to PCP...

• I often hear of reservations being places of very poor living conditions. Why do natives continue to live there if the conditions are so poor?
• Why do powwows happen? What is their purpose?
• You had a lot of thoughts about Adam Beach and Gathering of Nations Powwow - mind sharing some of those thoughts with us?
• After the show last week we got to talking about what I call "Academic Pollution" - where the academic community thinks they have reliable research about Indian culture when they do not. Mind sharing some examples of this?
• So what stories do you have of folks with Cherokee Princess syndrome?
• What is plastic shamanism? How does the Indian community deal with this?
• Can someone "become" Native American in the same way that someone can be Christened into Christianity?
• Where can someone go to genuinely learn more about this path?
• It seems those who practice Native spirituality are a bit more lighthearted in their spirituality than most. Why do you think this is?
• What's your thought on the pending joint resolution to "acknowledge a long history of official depredations and ill-conceived policies by the Federal Government regarding Indian tribes and offer an apology to all Native Peoples on behalf of the United States."

Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • Barbara - A Native American in North Carolina

Announcements

• We were hoping to have Pagan Troop Support on the show tonight for all the cool stuff they do but they had to back out at the last second. So we'll be filling up the time with some rants because we're rantful this week
• Announcing PaganCenteredPodcast.com as an additional way to get to our website.

Rants

• PaganSpace.com responds to Episode 101... which wasnt about them, but PaganSpace.net (PaganSpace.ning.com) ... by flinging poo at Episode 54?
• PaganSpace.com is doing something about their Spam issues, coincidentally timed with our rant against PaganSpace.net
• In other news, there are 2 websites that are called PaganSpace
• What's PaganSpace.net doing? Putting out "an important announcement" that says people should stop bitching about stuff. Stay classy PaganSpace!
• PaganNews.com - FUCK OFF! Stop nagging everyone with your stupid tweets that say the same SHIT every few hours! You are a poor representation of the Pagan News community and have earned your spot on the Asses board.
• Google to censor inappropriate books... just like Amazon
• Cherry Hill Seminary is Awesome so they're going on our Assets board!

Announcements:

• For Americans, before we get back from our commercial break: name your Senators, YOUR US representative, YOUR state representative and YOUR state senators. You cannot competently discuss, much less participate in, government affairs without this knowledge.

First Commercial Break

• You're Listening to PCP...

Main Topic of Discussion: Paganism in Government

• Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, guaranteeing equal pay for Pagans (and other religions and groups etc.) - Passed House, not Senate.
• This comes to us by way of Professor Friedman at the Religious Cause blog: Smoking bans mean you cannot smudge. Native Americans attempting to add religious exemption to Illinois no-smoking laws.
• Brought to our attention by Senator John Cornyn (R-TX): this bill that nearly passed, related to the ongoing saga in North Carolina: S. 22: Omnibus Public Land Management Act of 2009
• Situation where we helped influence the law: HR 1706: Internet Stopping Adults Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth (SAFETY) Act of 2009... would have jailed anyone that didn't log every bit that passed through their wi-fi routers.
• In February of 2010, books published before 1986 will be removed from libraries, bookstores etc. due to lead content. Here's a bill, that if passed, will prevent that.
• Amendment to US Constitution Proposed for not requiring prayer in public schools and institutions. (Proposed by Rep. Jo Ann Emerson [R-MO]).
• Stimulus bill forces student religious groups to move the location of their weekly meetings. Gotta love our congressmen not doing their jobs of actually reading the bills they are signing.
• Interesting Lawsuit: "I Choose Hell Productions" is suing the state of PA for religious discrimination - arguing about the law stating "An association name may not contain words that constitute blasphemy, profane cursing or swearing or that profane the Lord's name."
• PA Wastes 14,000 dollars on Bushels of Bibles to swear people in on. Kudos to the Republican representative from Chester, Chris Ross, for opting for a Quran since he he had always wanted to read it. He was later sworn in on a Bible.
• What's up with the focus on Native Americans in US legislation? It seems to come up a lot. Just in the a few weeks time:
  • Rep. Edward Pastor [D-AZ] introduced H.R. 725: To protect Indian arts and crafts through the improvement of applicable criminal proceedings, and for other purposes.
  • Rep. Earl Pomeroy [D-ND] introduced H.R. 727: To provide for the issuance of bonds to provide funding for the construction of schools of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and for other purposes.
  • Sen. John McCain [R-AZ] introduced S. 151: A bill to protect Indian arts and crafts through the improvement of applicable criminal proceedings, and for other purposes.
  • Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA] introduced S. 338: A bill to amend the Omnibus Indian Advancement Act to modify the date as of which certain tribal land of the Lytton Rancheria of California is deemed to be held in trust and to provide for the conduct of certain activities on the land.
  • Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK] introduced H.R. 474: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to permanently extend the Indian employment credit and the depreciation rules for poverty used predominantly within an Indian reservation.
  • Rep. Zach Wamp [R-TN] introduced H.R. 454: To amend the National Trails System Act to provide for the inclusion of new trail segments, land components, and campgrounds associated with the Trail of Tears National Historic Trail, and for other purposes.
  • Rep. Neil Abercrombie [D-HI] introduced H.R. 862: To express the policy of the United States regarding the United States relationship with Native Hawaiians, to provide a process for the reorganization of a Native Hawaiian government and the recognition by the United States of the Native Hawaiian government, and for other purposes.
  • Sen. Jon Tester [D-MT] introduced S. 375: A bill to authorize the Crow Tribe of Indians water rights settlement, and for other purposes.
  • Rep. George Radanovich [R-CA] introduced H.R. 438: To transfer administrative jurisdiction of certain Federal lands from the Bureau of Land Management to the Bureau of Indian Affairs, to take such lands into trust for Tuolumne Band of Me-Wuk Indians of the Tuolumne Rancheria, and for other purposes.

Listener Feedback

• TommyElf over at the Edge of the Circle did a rant on From the Edge of the Circle about PaganSpace regarding Episode 101.

  Dave's response: Yes, there are stalkers and fundies everywhere. However, it seems weird that a religious community wouldn't be more active in curbing such activity.

• Barrett A. Writes:

  hey guys im just doing this to say im a little disappointed in you. see you guys kept saying that u couldnt wait to tear paganspace a new one but when you actually got to the episode you end of with a "well today there not that bad" what was that. please guys dont get tame i love the stupid people bashing and paganspace is a great target if i was grading you id give you a C- for effort but you guys are usually grade A students of stupid bashing 101. If you decide to try again i want to see the black snow flakes. LOL you guys rule cant wait to listen to the satanist episode

• Tobey sends us hatemail:

  I'm sorry, that you guys don't get hatemail. That being said, I absolutely hate all of you and will never again listen to your podcast (until the next one comes out). Most of you are inane and boring except for the couple of you who aren't intelligent enough to reach any level of inanity. I can't believe how you bash people that you don't understand. If some whacko wants to think that he or she is a squirrel (mmmmm...squirrel) let them have their ignorant fantasy and tell as many people about it as they want to. I want more homos on the show!!! On a positive note, I'm glad that y'all have gotten some sort of grasp of the alphabet and can sometimes take turns with comments in alphabetical order by first name. Wow!!! Once again, I hate you all and can't wait for the next podcast to come out, so that I can tell you just how much you are hated once again. If anyone would like a scary, sleazy stalker instead of hatemail, just let me know. I'm here for you. /wink

• Amanda Eve writes:

  Hey guys I was wanting to submit a topic. Now I have never personally been out of touch with the mystical and with the arts yet one day I couldn't reach them ( my skill has to do with divination and psychic work ) Im back in touch now which leads me to the question : What happens when you have writers block -esque blockage with your magic....any ideas to help ? Thanks alot ...Amber you rock....Ashley you frighten me ( in the best way possible) and gentlemen.....well done ...thanks

Topics of Discussion

• From the Wild Hunt Blog: Who Has the Greatest Investment in Christianity's Pagan Past?

For Further Listening

• Show: Geek Witch
• Our Take: Reviewed it back at Episode 3, but has vastly improved since she has found her own identity for her show. Now it's got a good feel to it.
• Audio Quality: 10, no complaints.
• Engaging: 10, interesting, especially with regards to an Aussie take on things
• Educational: 9

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Final Thoughts

Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• Regular Hosts:
  • Amber - A Shamanic Kemetic Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Ashlee - A Satanist in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
  • Branden - A Theurgist in the Outer Banks of North Carolina
  • Dave - An Eclectic Wiccan in Houston, Texas
• Guests:
  • None

Announcements

• Remember, you can always drop us feedback and topic suggestions via the website in the feedback section.We haven't gotten hate mail in a very long time... so send us some!

Rants

• Pan Gaia and New Witch merging to form New Witch: Creating Pagan Community. A mix "popular" with in-depth religious discussion. Dave thinks this is a good idea. Why artificially split the Pagan community? Everyone's trying to enrich themselves if they're trying to read up on the community's happenings anyway.
• Amazon is hurting the Pagan community!We've now created an Assets and Asses board in the sidebar of our website to ostracize Amazon for their continued FAIL!
• Dave discusses how his perception of what is "religiously conservative" has been skewed since living in Houston, a relatively liberal city.Now considers seeing people wearing crosses "conservative" vs. when in PA that was just normal.
• Dave discusses his trip to the Roman-German museum and how things have remained so constant in Koln over thousands of years.Cathedral stands on the former Roman Forum.

First Commercial Break

• You're Listening to PCP...

Main Topic of Discussion

• PaganSpace
  • Dave's Rant against Ning.com and Spam
  • Rant about the Intellectual Vacuum of PaganSpace in particular
  • Has there ever been a social network so universally hated by Pagans?Look at all the Pagan Podcasters that have joined then later spoken against PaganSpace
  • WitchSchoolInternational.ning.com - Where did this intellectual discussion come from?What happened to childishly taunting the Christians then complaining when they didn't like that?

Listener Feedback

• Gutwrench writes:

  I would really like to hear "ALL" of your opinion's on 2012.

  Not the fact that a lot of people feel the planets will align. Or aliens are coming. But the fact that most skeptics and historians alike feel that it is going to be a time of change in souls. That we will all re-think out ways and do everything totally different. I have red stories and listened to podcasts and I have heard many opinions on this subject. And nearly all of them lean to the same thing. Not the end but a new beginning. Could this be the time older religions die and the new aged religions flourish? I find the subject and the way it enrages some people fascinating.

• David Carron Writes:

  On PCP Ep 98: Heilsa Folks, Kudos to you on the much improved sound quality of the 'casts. My speakers - and ears - thank you greatly. I think your guest was off in lumping all reconstructionists together. I have only met a very small handful of SCA (Society of Creative Anachronism) type of folks who actually wanted to go and turn back the clock. Not too many people I know actually, seriously think that going to a Compound and acting like plumbing, medicine and electronics don't exist is a good idea. The fact is that we live in the Modern age. We have to adapt those old ways to make sense and be relevant to our lives in the here and now. The trick is to figure out how much and what exactly we can bend within the confines of the lore used. That is the big and major difference between ecclectics and/or wiccans and recons. Your guest didn't solidly address that, at least to my satisfaction. I would be happy to talk about what I do on this far flung branch of the Pagan tree, known as Asatru. Feel free to give out this post and email address.

  David's email is at yahoo.com and is dscarron.

• Lilith Writes:

  I do not have a topic for you, just listener feedback. Episode 98 is by far my favorite show! Excellent discussions and very thought provoking. And suprisingly you guys stayed on topic for once . . .

• Qwertos Tweets:

  You should do an episode on metaphysics 101

• Rob Writes:

  Happy birthday your an island of insanity in a sea of blah and dont forget to feed the velociraptors

Topics of Discussion

• Carl Llewellyn Weschcke, chairman of Llewellyn Worldwide, Ltd. says in an interview with Pan Gaia that advanced books are in the pipeline and those complaining about a lack of advanced books should step up and write these advanced books.
• From Fark: Fake vampires are totally pissing off real vampires (also O-Negative "tastes like dessert wine")
• A re-visiting of chakras and qi energy from a pseudo-scientific perspective in response to: Anti-Globalism writes "A group of hippies is complaining that a recently installed WiFi mesh network in the UK village of Glastonbury is causing health problems. To combat the signals from the Wi-Fi hotspots, the hippies have placed orgone generators around the antennae." Although there have been many studies that show no correlation between WiFi and health issues the hippies say, "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
• Quick PSA: Scientology... Glib mom sues Church of Scientology for taking away son's schizophrenia meds and giving him a loaded gun

For Further Listening

• Show: Pagan Spirituality Today
• Our Take: It's a great meta show.If you want to get a feel for what's going on in Pagan spirituality... today, this is the show to listen to.I say it is a meta show since, despite each episode being topical, the host does cover much of the discussion going on with various Pagan Podcasts and Pagan Forums as well.Interesting listen, and you'll much of the same stuff we say here on PCP, but in a tame and professional presentation.
• Audio Quality: 10, absolutely awesome after the first episode.
• Engaging: 9, since has interesting stories to back up his points
• Educational: 9, great for those who are starting down a Pagan path

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Final Thoughts

Credits

• Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
• Season 11 Credits

• We've gotten fewer votes on Podcast Alley since we've begun asking you to vote for us.So to increase the number of votes for us on Podcast Alley... we're not going to tell you to vote for us anymore.

• You're Listening to PCP...

• Podcast in Review.
  • Holy Shit, 100 episodes!
  • Round robin for those that haven't listened to all 100 episodes: Name, Spiritual background, how you got started and how it's evolved over the past 3 years
  • In the beginning...
    • Four Years Ago, we were the Pagan Panel on GIG Cast
    • How PCP Got Started
    • Novel Nature of PCP at the time:
      • First to be blunt.
      • Among the first to not be "we are of rank, listen to us!"
      • Cult of Amber still remains a mockery of religion, just now making fun of podcasters that "unwisely" start their own religious sects.
      • Also, unlike many other shows of the era, we didn't really care about ratings and we did have video game music for our intros!
  • Longevity of PCP:
    • The Survival of PCP after we left Clarion
    • The era of PCP on terrestial radio: WPSH.Bleeping required.
    • End of an era: WPSH goes dark.Ashlee takes over production and the debate: bleep or not to bleep?
    • Pagan Radio Network
    • Most influential Pagan podcast
  • Controversy and PCP:
    • Old Pagan Group (13 & 33)
    • PVHC
    • Otherkin
    • DNA Activation
    • Young and Inexperienced
    • Y'all
    • Pop Culture
    • Reconstructionism
  • Stuff that's changed since PCP Episode 1: Pentacle on Veteran Headstones, Courts backing Pagans, Podcasting gone mainstream in the Pagan Community, Disney being Pagan-Friendly
  • The many hosts of PCP.Like Episodes 59 and 60 with 12 hosts, still a record in the Pagan and Occult communities.
  • Episode 1 vs. Episode 100.Maybe the massive group of people in Episode 1 were time travelers looking to see the birth of our awesomeness </sarcasm>
  • What is our role in the Pagan Podcasting community?
  • What about the overall Pagan community?
  • Overall Commentary on the Podcast
  • PCP: Growing beyond the podcast.PCP the book?
  • We are beginning our 4th year of podcasting, where do we want to go in the next 4 years?

• Audio Quality: 9. Started out really crappy, as if it was a bunch of people screaming into 1 microphone.Now, pretty damn good but there's pops, hisses and people talking in the background here and there.
• Educational: 9.Started out quite random on rare occasion hitting on things briefly.But now stay on topic making for some really interesting discussion about various topics in an educational way.
• Entertaining: 10.Even when you can't understand what's being said, it's pretty damn entertaining.

• Magda Writes:

  I loved the episode. I brought up a book to Ashlee by a writer called Mike Carey. He wrote a few comics that have had other kinish stuff, but he doesn't use that term. In his "God Save the Queen" graphic novel, he had a girl who was part faerie. In his Felix Castor series he mentioned a term "Loup Garu."(might have the spelling wrong) I think it is, basically the French term for were-"fill in blank". Instead of a human that turns into a wolf or other animal, it's an animal who inhabits a human body and tries to manipulate the human's body to it's original animal form. The mention of that term came up in his Felix Castor novel called "Vicious Circle." Even in his "Luicfer" comic one of the characters was Arch Angel Michael's offspring, she was Asian. Mike Carey has a way of writing about metaphysical things and making them sound totally plausible and not so crazy sounding.I know where Kina is coming from with the Otherkin thing. I was also told a while back about being Otherkin. I didn't want to believe it. She didn't use the term Otherkin, the lady told me I had faerie or elf in me. I thought she was crazy. I decided to read up on it, but like Kina said, I didn't want to be those people. I have similarities, and the health issues, but I don't want to be those people. I just explain all my health problems as, "I was made with used parts."I talked to Amber a bit on this topic a while back, and she made me feel less crazy about it. She made me feel normal and I actually got some really good insight from it. It helped me realize why I would always get bored so easily and why I was always super depressed when I was away from nature.I don't let whatever I might or might not be hinder my life. I'm still planning on going to school after I birth the next world leader, I'm still a workaholic, and can raise my child with no problem. Again, I can't say it enough, I don't want to be those people.

  I agree, that "Humans are disgusting litle creatures."

  Kina, you rock! You're totally awesome sauce and I wish I lived in England so I could chum with you.

• Magda Also Writes:

  I have a couple of questions that I would like to ask.The first one is, is it possible to have a family that all have some form of metaphysical ability? Like a family of psychic vampires, psychics or telekinetics? Would that be coincidence or something that can be passed down through the generations? I would like to think it might be genetic because how else would I explain to my finace why his mom's side of the family, him included, either are psychic vampires or, in his mom's case can read your mind; which is very beneficial when you're crazing a certain type of food. She hasn't failed us yet. :DMy second question has to do with something I looked up on Incubi and Succubi when I read a post from someone who wanted to summon an Incubus to have sex with them. Sigh. Anyways upon research on why someone thought they could even control something like an Incubus, especially a newbie, I came across a website that had Biblical stories of Incubi and Succubi. It mentioned stories of them breeding with humans and how it could be possible. I also ran into some other sites that mentioned how a succbus or incubus could possibly breed. It had to do with they steal a human's eggs or sperm and us it on the next. There was one site that said there is an understanding, if you will, that demons aren't allowed to either posses a human or copulate with them unless god gives the ok.My question is: Do you think that they work that closely together? After thinking about that I started to think wouldn't it be great that the Satan all the Christians are afraid of is really God? That these demons are just doing all of His dirty work?

  Thanks for indulging my crazy theories and questions,
  Magda

• Pythia Writes:

  Episode 96 was very interesting. On one hand I can understand your point about it really not being of any importance that Deo and Mandy have embarked upon the path of Atheism. On the other hand I understand the bereft feelings of some within the pagan community. I felt that they represented a sound, balanced, and mature approach to Paganism with a healthy dose of scholarship, understanding, and skepticism. They were informative but approachable, something that tends to be hard to come by on the internet. I guess it also seemed odd to me that they would jump ship considering all of the experiences they've had. Alas, it is not for me to understand the workings of their minds and they definitely filled a niche. It was great while it lasted and they will be missed. I think you guys are carrying the torch nicely indeed and hope that you'll stick with us (the "pagan community" in all it's fucked-up-titude) for the long run. Cheers!

• Barrett A. and Amanda Eve Write::

  Hey guys this is something we think you'll find extremely funny the other day we found out that the Pope actually deemed coffee a christian beverage we think this is reason enough to give up coffee. we hope you find this random fact as funny as we did.

• Chris Writes:

  u guys should totally do a show about isreal regardi!!! i luv u clark! and sam! and amber!
  <(`,`)>

• Pythia Writes:

  Another two fantastic episodes (97-98), though I must be honest with you. I used you guys. I used you guys, like a green party candidate during his midlife crisis uses an innocent Sierra Club canvasser, to further my own agenda. You all provided thought provoking and informative discussion on (Polytheist) Reconstructionists and I was hoping you'd help dispel some of the myths and accusations I've seen hurled at us on a few pagan forums and social networks.Great dialogue and kudos for bringing Nickon to flesh out the experience.Cheers!

  P.S.- My boyfriend IS one of those stereotypical Asatru with the shaved head and death metal. I played the clip back for him and he died laughing.

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• Things to know before you start
  • First and foremost there is always a warning when dealing with herbs, no matter how safe you think they are
    • Issues when harvesting your own
    • What to look for from a shop or in capsule form
    • Figuring out the safe way to use the herbs
• Harvesting on your own
  • Know your plants
    • Species
      • Cross reference often
      • Many plants look similar
    • Parts to harvest
      • Know what you're using it for before you harvest
      • Damage control for plants
      • Be respectful towards nature
    • Season to harvest
      • Don't step on wet ground, makes it hard for plants to come back, wait for dry spell
      • Don't gather during or directly after drought or rain
      • Spring and late fall reach peak during cool spells (violets, dandelion root, cat tail shoots)
      • Summer and early fall ones need heat and make essential oils (chokecherry, st. johns wort, mullein)
  • Dried or capsule form
    • Read labels on capsules!
      • Organic Crop Improvement Association (OCIA)
      • Farm-verified Organics
      • Organic Buyers and Growers Association (OBGA)
      • California Certification for Organic Farmers
      • Do't get imported ones
    • Capsule process kills herb, if you don't believe it...compare home dried herbs to ones from a capsule. They smell weaker.
  • Nothing compares to your own research! Read A LOT!
    • Safer to use herbal medicine books than magical reference books
    • As offerings, more respectful to use fresh herbs rather than capsule
    • Life doesn't always permit to harvest your own, but should try.
    • Better quality in wines, vinegars, oils, than dried powder
• Terms to go by and explanations
  • Parts of the plant
    • Roots: early spring to late fall, since sap rises and falls with sun, gather in early morning or late afternoon
      • Rhizomes: Root systems that travel and produce new plants along system
      • Bulb: One plant per bulb at base of plant
      • Tubers: Thickened ends of Rhizomes (potatoe)
    • Leave: when tender and showing new growth - before flowering or after seeding
    • Seeds: when ripe and dry but before they fall to ground
    • Inner bark and sap: spring before leaves are full size. Bark is gathered from the limbs NOT the trunk. Midafternood of a sunny day on south facing side of the tree is best
    • Shoots: year round but best in spring, thin down masses
  • Teas: infusing the herbs with hot water
    • Flowers and leaves
      • 1 tsp of herb to 1 cup just under boiling water
      • 5-10 minutes of steeping
    • Roots, seeds and barks
      • 1 tsp per 1 cup of water
      • 10-15 minutes
    • Take three times a day, never add milk or sugar, only honey
  • Baths: add tea to bath water and soak for 15-20 minutes only 1-2 a day
  • Compress: prepare tea
    • Dip gauze in tea and apply immediately
      • 15-20 minutes at a time
      • 1 a day for long term, 2 a day for short term
  • Poultices
    • Mix powdered herbs in equal quantities to cover afflicted area
    • Mix with enough hot water to create paste
    • Sandwich in gauze and apply like compress
  • Tinctures extract herb qualities into alcohol: 5 year life span - 1-2 drops per 5lbs of body into 8 oz cup of water -- for babies, have mother take - if too strong make with juice or place drops under tongue
    • Need a pint glass jar, aprox 2 cups fresh herb, aprox 2 cups 80 proof alcohol (vodka, rum, ect)
    • Sort out herb parts and remove decaying or yellowed parts and fill jar leaving about 1 inch on top
    • Cover herb completely with vodka and run a butter knife along the inside to release any air bubbles
    • Add more alcohol, cover and shake for about a minute
    • LABEL AND DATE
    • Store in dark place for 3-6 weeks, shake occasionally, make sure plant is always covered in alcohol, add more as needed
    • Herbs will look pale and wilted and just spent
    • Pour into glass through cheesecloth
    • Put herbs into cheese clothe and squeeze out remaining liquid
  • Herbal oils
    • 1/2 pint jar, 3/4 c herb, 2 Tbsp 190 proof alcohol, 3/4 cup oil
      • Olive oil if being ingested
      • Sesame, walnut, wheat germ if being absorbed
      • If non-absorbant like for massage, sweet almond, avocado, cocoa butter
    • organize and clean and chop
    • mold grows easy in oil, allow to dry out overnight before working with your chosen herbs
    • fill with herb and oil and remove air bubbles like in a tincture but leave 2 inches instead of just one
    • pour the little bit of alcohol on top to prevent more airborn intruders, the alcohol will help with bacteria growth
    • cover with lid and shake for 2 minutes
    • take lid off and cover with 4 layers cheesecloth and rubberband
    • place in warm dry spot (sunny windowsill) Cold may not let the herbs transfer ther properties the way heat will. Though caution should be practiced because of potential bacteria growth.
    • 2 weeks or until oil takes color of herbs and alcohol had evaporated
    • Strain through cheesecloth and press herbs for oil
    • Let sit overnight and decant (slowly pour oil to remove sediment)
    • Can use a turkey baster to decant instead
    • Place in capped glass jar and refrigerate
  • Salves
    • double boiler
    • 1 Tbsp beeswax
    • 8 oz herb oil
    • Gently warm oil with wax, add drops of tincture very slowly or will separate
    • When mixed well, single drop into cold water
      • If thin, oil will spread across top
      • If thick, will turn into ball
      • Add oil 1 tsp at a time and beeswax 1/4 tsp at a time
    • while still liquid, pour into container that fingers can reach bottom.
    • If not right consistency, warm container in hot water until melts and play with
• Herbalism 101
  • Herbs from the kitchen
    • Cinnamon: cartarizes wounds like in nosebleeds, very fierce protection, heals and protects through fire
    • Cloves: numbing effect that has been used with toothaches, used to protect against evil and strong negativity, good if placed under tongue while at risk
    • Bay leaves: if made into a tea it's soothing for minor stomach upset, good for protection of doorways, mirrors and windows of house, very mild herb, some say protects against bad dreams under pillow
    • Ginger: Can settle the stomach if not viral infection, fire based herb with a lot of potency, generally an additive rather than an active ingredient in my uses
    • Rosemary: can soothe upset stomach from virus, also used for purifications
    • Lemon juice: can soothe throat after straining, more importantly good use in potions but can be volatile, think of like a drop of sunshine
    • Olive oil: can be used as a base for many things, wonderful conductor when casting
  • Herbs to keep in stock
    • Rose (hips, petals, thorns): not nice plants, but good to use. Soothes nerves if hips in tea, petals can be used, is sedative, but be careful, thorns for protection, though considered love, it is protective love more than love, look at how roses grow
    • Echinacea: mainly for medicine, wonderful anti-biotic. Must be taken as an anti-biotic to work...not all the time
    • Lavender/Chamomile: in medicine and in magic, used as a calming sedative, works better in children and pregnancy
    • Sage (with compliment and explain): lowers blood sugar levels, rids of negativity but must be complimented with sweetgrass or cedar to bring positivity
    • Elder: very close to Echinacea usage, some will use for protection of the spirit as well as the body
    • Mint: good for stomach and digestion, oil is good for getting into stressed muscles and opening pathways, soothing energy, comfort rather than cleaning
    • Eucalyptus: help with breathing problems, severe cleaning out of air and energy
  • Herbs you've heard of but probably don't understand
    • Mugwort: said to aid in femine problems, used in acupressure treatments for heat treatments, for safe travel both in physical and non-physical world
    • Skullcap - Relaxes the body, good for exhaustionand depression, also menstrualcramps. Dangerous in large doses
    • Mandrake: All poisonous except for the ripe apple in the American plant, it is not for pleasant, or for the living, spells
    • Belladonna, Nightshade: several different plants, be careful which one you have, very deadly, they're not nice herbs to use and not recomended
    • Foxglove: very pretty but poisonous, used to use for heart problems some still do...not recomended
    • Feverfew: reduces the frequency and severity of migraines only if taken daily, won't help after starts, protection from mental attacks and energy siphoning
    • Dragons blood: from the sap of a dragon tree, for protection use resin, more so for non-human entities rather than negativity
    • Wormwood: to treat worms but toxic and not recommended, protection against maliciousness in spell work, don't use lightly
    • Pennyroyal: helps with menstruation, don't use during pregnancy. Mainly European version used as an abortitive...American species is weaker and not as effective.
    • Vervain: aids digestion and natural relaxant, said to help menstruation and as a contraceptive but not proven, said to be used in conjunction with hematite to reverse and throw back negativity
• Books to recommend (in no particular order)
  • Food of the Gods: The Search for the Original Tree of Knowledge A Radical History of Plants, Drugs, and Human Evolution by Terence McKenna
  • Folk Medicine by Jarvis M.D. D.C
  • Bach Flower Therapy: Theory and Practice by Mechthild Scheffer
  • Indian herbalogy of North America: By Alma R. Hutchens [with] N.G. Tretchikoff [and] Natalie K. Tretchikoff by Alma R Hutchens
  • Herbal Prescriptions for Health & Healing: Your Everyday Guide to Using Herbs Safely and Effectively by Donald Brown
  • Indian herbalogy of North America: By Alma R. Hutchens [with] N.G. Tretchikoff [and] Natalie K. Tretchikoff by Alma R Hutchens
  • Magical Aromatherapy (Llewellyn's New Age Series) by Scott Cunningham
  • The Pill Book Guide to Natural Medicines : Vitamins, Minerals, Nutritional Supplements, Herbs, and Other Natural Products by Michael Murray N.D.

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• Dave explains "PCP Classic."

• Pythia Writes:

  Hey guys! Have you guys discussed Reconstuctionists yet? Do you consider them to be more likely to become pagan fundamentalists? Why do you feel there is tension between Recons and the Neo-Pagan community? Do you feel Recons are more about the research then the spirituality or do you feel they just want to be as close to accurate as possible in regards to their practice? Also, what are some things you think Recons can bring to the rest of the Neo-Pagan community and what can Recons learn from their lest...erm...contsructionist counterparts? Tons of questions I know, but I'd love to hear your thoughts. I LOVE your show. Keep up the great work! -Pythia Hellenist

• Reconstructionism
  • What is Reconstructionism?
  • How does Reconstructionism contrast with Traditionalism?
  • Issues Reconstructionists encounter with the New Age boom

• Magda Writes:

  Atheists only remind me of what my Theology professor said, "There is no such thing as an atheist. If you are willing to die for something that is your God. God is an idea to everyone else, so any idea or concept that someone would die or kill for is someone's god. Money is a lot of people's god."

• Conducting Original Research! According to 25C3, there are only 15 investigative journalists in the entire US - 10 of which work for the New York Times. We need to resurrect original research in the Pagan Community! We need to stop regurgitating blogs and half-baked news articles, it just makes us look like a bunch of idiots - like seemingly every Pagan job discrimination case out there once you get the details.

• Final Thoughts

• New Poll on Website: Should we write PCP: The Book which will cover some of the more educational discussions we've had on the show?

• Qwertos Writes:

  Not really a show topic, and I have no idea if you have seen this, but ... http://ohmygods.co.uk/strips/2009-01-23.

  Dave Commentary: This is a comic strip of how people react to requests for sources and historical data to back up factual claims as being closed minded.

• Magda Writes:

  I found this article online and it reminds me of that whole Audubon thing with the Plover's where Amber lives.

  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090113/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_rabbit_infestation

  Now I have been an environmentalist/animal lover(not a crazy one) since before it was a fad, and to be honest this whole "green movement" pisses me off because people are doing it for the wrong reasons. I've done my share of research on animals and the environment so I get the general idea of how the ecosystem works, unlike some of these people that are trying to "help".

  Their reasoning for this is that these animals were introduced to the island so they don't belong. Well, shit, brown rats were introduced to North America by Europeans and roaches by Europeans and Asians and they become part of the ecosystem. Don't get me wrong, I would love to get rid of those roaches. Anywas, if it wasn't for the Europeans I wouldn't have had some of the best pet rats I've ever had. Rats are super smart and adorables.

  I would love to see how they "removed" the cats, but I can only guess when they use the term eradicate in the article. Now they are trying to kill off the other animals that "don't belong" by poisoning them. Yeah, because that won't effect the rest of the ecosystem. I like how during all of this they haven't realized that there are a lot of areas humans "don't belong" in and they manage to stay there. I don't know how they figure eradicating 4 different species of animals will help the ecosystem. I'm sure there are other animals that stopped feeding on birds that started feeding on the rabbits and rats instead. But who am I so say anything?

  Related US-based legislation: Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU] introduced H.R. 669: To prevent the introduction and establishment of nonnative wildlife species that negatively impact the economy, environment, or other animal species'or human health, and for other purposes.

• Mickey-P Writes

  I came across a news article, it takes a bit to get to the point

  http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2009/01/11/news/top/fb296762204669c98625753a00095315.txt

  Its kind of odd but not surprising, that in this modern scientific age that most people jump to conclusions about paganism having something to do with a horrible incident when facts like "he was bipolar", "Stopped taking his medication", "Had a history of drug abuse" and was "experiencing paranoia" are completely overlooked.

  I'm curious about you folk's opinion regarding how articles such as this affect the greater pagan community.

• ShadowWalker writes:

  Hey guys! I, too, am someone who listens at work. It brings me great joy as I sit between the cubicles of my fundamentalist Christian coworkers to listen as my fellow heathens entertain the masses. Dallas isn't exactly a hotbed of paganism--yet. (Speaking of fundie coworkers, that might be a possible future topic to cover as well--how to handle them without losing your job.) I was curious to know if any of you have a particular [holy] book you follow as part of your beliefs? It doesn't have to be as well known as the Bible, Qu'ran, Kabbalah, etc. I am sure there are those who worship Buckland's blue bible as their holy book, or Israel Regardie's The Golden Dawn, or D.J. Conway's Celtic Magic.

• Cedar Dryad Writes:

  Hey guys,
  Sorry if this e-mail reads like crap, but I'm typing this on my phone.

  Due to certain dramas in my life I started wondering if all the modern twists on older religions have turned people into pussies?

  I remember when Buddhist monks weren't all peace and love; when they were actual warriors and were dangerous. When Druids weren't just educated hippies or glorified freemasons. It seems all this new peace, love and happiness bull crap has turned people into complacent drones. People don't seem to want to stand up for themselves or others because they either, want to turn the other cheek, deal with it in a civil manner, or wait for karma.

  Dammit sometimes you have to speak up to be heard, and take chances. People are getting way too comfortable.

• Magda Writes:

  So due to extreme boredom I was surfing the web and decided to see what was up on Paganspace. I saw a topic about Obama's speech and how people are seeing pagans as being clumped into the 'non-believers'group. How?! I'm sorry I don't see it, not even when he made the speech. I just said, "Hey, what about the pagans?" I understand he didn't have time to spout out every pagan and monotheistic religion out there, and he played it safe by mentioning the popular and more accepted ones.

  Why are some pagans getting uber sensitive about this? Hell, sadly I think it would've been career suicide to mention pagans. I mean people already have a problem with him wanting companies to go green, legalizing abortion, being black, having the middle name Hussein. If he mentioned pagans I could see people trying to impeach him. No one tried to impeach Bush for all the crap he did because he was "a good Christian man" as I have heard one too many times. Maybe pagans were mentioned because of the simple facts that pagans as a whole aren't so unified and they don't speak out. On the other hand, I do understand why some pagans are afraid to speak out for themselves. We live in a country where our kids can be taken away from us because we are Pagans and people are closed minded. Maybe we'll be lucky and he'll change that too.

  It seems like some pagans are seeing this as him treating us like crap and we don't matter, or trying to force his beliefs on us.

  I did post, I mentioned how our fore fathers were atheistic, I should've clearified, atheistic when it came to governing. They really didn't want to involve religion in how the government was run, and that is a wise decision. Someone mentioned that they were mostly freemasons, I know that, but goes on to say freemasonry has deep roots in Christianity. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I was pretty sure Freemasonry has deep pagan roots.

  I'm going to expect to get flamed at if this is read on the air by those same pagans since I pretty much pointed myself out for my post on Paganspace. Oh, well. I don't think it was as big an issue as people are making it out to be.

• Lindsey Writes:

  Hey i just wanted to say how much i loved your show i havent listened to it in a year or so but recently brought it back up. i really don't know anyone else that is pagan or can hold any type of convorsation about religion and it is very refreshing to just hear anyone at all talking about this so thank you for giving me this link to the community i am sadly alienated from

• Alorelith Writes:

  Dear boys and girls of PCP,

  My name is Alorelith, a mod at a forum called Second Sight. Second Sight is a fairly new community aimed at topics of divination, psychic activity, paranormal matters and (of course) PAGANISM! I would like to extend a warm and open invitation to all of you at PCP (especially Ashlee yum). I would also like to offer a trade of sorts. In exchange for posting a link to your site on our forum, I ask that you provide us a small advertising space in your show. Our goal in this is not to generate monetary revenue in any way. We just want to spread the word of our new amazing forum and to help our community grow. I appreciate you taking the time to read my proposal and I anxiously await your response.

  -Alorelith @ Second Sight

  http://www.psychiccommunity.net

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• Patri Jia Kom Writes:

  Hi again:

  I've been listening some more to your shows and something you said in a recent episode (not sure which one) got me thinking. Are we atheists really all that negative? You sounded like atheists just take all the fun out of things. I'm not sure I agree. Before I go into this, I am truly sorry if I mis-heard you or indeed if I imagined the whole thing. I'd still like to put into words my defense.

  From your explanation of metaphysics I gathered that it's possible for prettymuch anyone to work in the realm of the metaphysical, including atheists, since that realm is essentially anything which is not physical (Amber in Episode 83 at 18:50 in MP3). At first glance this might sound like it poses a problem for an atheist but this is not so.

  Consider the example of a thought or an emotion. Let's suppose these two may be explained in terms of physical processes (neurons bla bla bla). These are both things which are experienced. That experience is not something physical but rather something known only to the person experiencing it. The same then is true of metaphysical phenomena. If indeed it is true that one can enter the astral plane and project one's disembodied psyche to another location and it is true that this phenomenon can be explained through recourse to empirical science then I would suspect that the experiential component is analogous to the application layer of the OSI model used in building the internet. (ask Jason for details).

  I suspect that Ashlee may be able to comment on my theory as well, since moving up the spiritual OSI model -- going from the biochemical components to the application layer of experience -- would require something akin to a paradigm shift (in Peter Carrol's sense of the term).

  I see you have some people like Simim and Branden who might have some interesting things to say on this topic.

• Chuck Writes:

  I'm a new listener to the Pagan Podcast (Sam is a friend of my wife's, and so I subscribed a few weeks ago.), and I do find it pretty funny - both from the humourous stuff you purposely do to be funny and ... well, the stuff I find funny due to personal bias. I'm an atheist, and your show is really my first exposure to paganism, which I find pretty far out there. I know I'm not your target audience, so I'm sure that doesn't surprise you. Which sort of brings me to the point of this letter. In show 93, Sam bashed Travolta for eschewing science in favor of following the doctrines of his religion of scientology. Now if you're going to host a show that talks about magic circles, crystal power, proper polytheist worship methods ... or whatever ... then I think we've crossed that barrier between what science recommends and what many of you personally believe. Assuming Travolta truly believes that Scientology is true and that the sciences of medicine and psychiatry would do more harm than good, is he any different from some of your more nonscientific views? Sure, you may personally not approve of his choices, but haven't you all made personal religious choices that other folks don't approve of? Not that I don't find Scientology nutty. I sure do! As I do all religious organizations. I just find there to be a smattering of hypocracy in judging other religions more harshly than your own. But keep up the good work. There always seems to be more room for additional belief systems, and yours are far less dangerous than those that believe in Jihads or the "free market"

• Pagan Community going OMFG, Deo's gone Atheist... WTF BBQ OMFG Eleventy1

  Dave Notes: Deo wants something with evidence and no necessity for beliefs. Religion is practically a bunch of random crazy un-provable stuff someone personally believes and takes seriously enough to center their lives around. If you can't deal with that, then go Atheist. Otherwise, suck it up and move on. Atheism isn't the final destination for Pagans, it's just a separate but equal spiritual path.

• Google taking action to clean up the cliche "You can find anything on Google, except accurate information about Paganism." The Google Search Wiki (for those logged in).
• Trend in Video games where you create your own world having an element of religion integrated into them. Interesting method of learning how religion can manipulate people. Oh ya, it pisses off the Atheists too.
• Religious communities are creating online MMORPGs where people can interact with others of similar religious beliefs and go to online Mosques etc.
• Study shows Ideology Trumps Facts - How this relates to Fundamentalism (Pagan Fundamentalism etc.)

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• Every 45 episodes we have an Otherkin Episode, just keeping with the pattern. Yeah, we know there's books being written on similar subjects. However, books and podcasts portray vastly different information.

• Recap: What is our current definition of Otherkin?
• Freeform discussion of Otherkin
• The role of Otherkin Identity in Metaphysical Working:
  • People claim that they are able to do more metaphysically when they assume their Otherkin identity. Is this simple mind-over-matter effect, resulting from a different mindset of the "acceptable parameters" of what one is capable of? Could this just be imagination?
  • Are we sure this is a result of a synergistic affect and not the result of downright possession (e.g. the Willow incident)?
  • In our experience with Otherkin, have we ever witnessed anything that would be considered blatantly not possible by a human? Where do we draw the line of what a human is capable vs. incapable of doing?
  • Is this limited to Otherkin? Can those who do not claim to be Otherkin also use an different identity as a method of boosting their metaphysical works? Or are they already doing this with magical names, altered-mindsets and whatnot?

• Final Thoughts

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• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
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• Get your PCP fix even when away from broadband internet: 1-712-318-1003 - Special thanks to Qwertos for setting this up for us.
• Thanks for the ego stroking on Podcast Alley! It is much appreciated. You have pushed us to a ranking of 6 in the category of religion and spirituality on Podcast Alley, the recognized authority for podcast rankings worldwide

• Shiara Phoenixfire Writes:

  I've been a listener since ep. 10 and haven't stopped listening since and I just wanted to give you guys a bit of ego stroking and a thank you for giving me an idea for helping out my own community. Thanks to Episode 84, I've bloged my views on the situation in my community and have started a movement for change in the way things are going to be run in the city of churches (I kid you not, there's like two churches to every bar and a bar on every corner how messed up is that?). Thanks to you guys you've set in motion a clean-up of leadership that's been long over due. I've included a link to said post if any of you are intrested in reading it, if not, that's cool too. Just wanted to let you know you guys are really inspireing in your own weird way, and love the random sci-fi refrences, keep up the good work.

• An Anonymous Listener Writes:

  Hey, I recently started listening to your podcast, and since you guys seem to be *so* helpful answering questions, I thought I'd ask one. =D

  I'm going to be going off to college soon to study embalming. Yep, I'm going to be working in a funeral home, embalming dead people. So...my question is: Do you think I'll have to go to work everyday in a metaphysical hazmat suit? I'll be dealing with dead bodies that may or may not have negative energy clinging to them, and there's also the general energy that tends to hang around a funeral home. Do you have any idea what special care I should take? I know it's what I want to do, but I have no experience with dead people because, well, they're dead people. Thanks.

  This could also branch into a topic about how being sensitive to energy affects your jobs, and vice versa.

• Gutwrench writes:

  I loved this episode as you read my letter. I have been mulling over some suggestions for topics of discussion. But you scared the shit out of me with your rant'But its all good as I tend to get over confident and I probably need to re-think my thoughts.

  So I took a class on Beginerds Reading and learnt how to read.

  Now I just need to learn how to type with something other than my ankle.

  You are absolutely dead on about people having initiative and gaining knowledge on our own. I have been doing just that and finding so many conflicts amongst writers and believers. Its all so very discerning. I will not give up in trying to find out what Paganism truly is. As I really don't believe there is one explanation for it. What seemed to be a some what reasonable definition 5 years ago has become 'fluffy? 'I guess is the term? .. Therefore Pagans have segregated themselves and eliminated.. or should I say , created a new/additional definition to add to the already HUGE list of 'PAGANS'

  I shall continue to look for my religious stance amongst this world of smacktards and I would love to tell PCP that you all are helping me immensely in my search. I cant get enough of you all. You are like family * feels like a smacktard * as I listen to the podcasts while I work.

  I noticed that the title of episode 91 is 'Single and Lonely' um Ashlee I still, madly want to have yer babies,!

  As a token of my love I am currently working on a genetically altered chicken (egg) with hopes of it becoming a raptor, with a hello kitty head with purple pom poms of fire as claws on its arms'and I have this cute half shirt, that will go down to it's belly button'and on the shirt is a HUGE smiley face.

  Dave .. when yu are angry, your voice morphs into a new yorker.

  Thanks guys I do indeed love you all!

  one suggestion I might be able to give for Topics..
  Conspiracy Theorists, are they just another branch of Paganism?
  * feels stupid *

• Mike writes:

  hey i love ur podcast so much i have one simple request could u do a second herbalism episode with better sound quality cause ive tried to listen to it 3 times now and there r parts where u sound like charlie browns teacher and its kind of annoying cause its something that interests me

• A. Sailor writes:

  Greeting's PCP.
  I would first like to say that you guys have a great show. My wife and I are regular listeners and enjoy it very much.

  Now down to the reason for this email. A ship in the Navy will be holding an All faiths worship service. I know what you are thinking...all christian faiths worship service. I thought so to until I received an invitation to be one of the speakers for the service. and that I have been asked to read a pagan prayer for the service that I had submitted. It's not much but it seems like a huge step for the military from what I've seen in my time in. I've been a follower of the pagan faith for 16 or so years, when I could finally put a name to my beliefs. the service will also have a Muslim and a Hindu speaker, a Jew, a Jehovah's witness and a Roman Catholic. Although I found it vastly amusing that the only three that showed up for the first meeting where the pagan the muslim and the hindu. It sounds like the start of a good joke...but I haven't figured out the punch line yet.

  Keep up the good show and I'll keep listening :)
  - A. Sailor.

• Gutwrench writes us again:

  episode 8------- i think... When I listened to the intro I was greatly enraged. It left me weeping. Feeling even more lost and hopeless. Makes me think of what is going wrong with the positive stuff people like PCP and many others are trying to embrace and share. a perspective.. I want to make a difference and challenge all who defy love as being part of our soul. But..inside I am afraid of being " Ganged up on " and have all of my positive energies and drive and ambitions .,. become shattered. Maybe its because of the rules and limits put on society as we mature and try to interact as independently thinking humans. But I know I do and say more in my own mind than I do in actuality. which leads me to believe theres more like me out there than I realize. Like PCP i think of how I can reach to these peoples and communicate so a real difference can be made. then..... episode 8 happens and pushes me back into my shell where i think its safe. Where I am going with this , I am not sure. Maybe if you guys see there are many more out here like yourselves, who need brave souls like yourselves, to make us stronger and more confident. Enabling us to do our part. Episode 8's into made me cry and become very upset. But listening to you guys made me aware that there is a way to beat that kind of negativity down. Not physically but in my own way of feeling. I want to thank you all for the information and confidence building you do. I know I speak for many who are soon to open up and tell you these same words. Thanks for helping me be me. When people we know and love as well as ourselves devote entire lives to a certain religion or belief and it fails us.... its and automatic DE-evolutionary response to become reserved, afraid and paranoid to find ourselves again. I hope PCP doesnt think ima wak!

• Final Thoughts

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• Intro and Show Description Background Music: 5th Dimension by Jason
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• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Season 10 Feed Image is by Amber
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• Hydron9801 writes:

  I very much like your show, it has provided me with entertainment and information while I'm a work. I really enjoy your skits especially the skits in episode 49 and 51. Scotch tape- Man's greatest weapon... Keep up the good work and thanks again; you guys; for this awesome podcast.

  On another note I possibly have a topic for you guys:

  Wild Magic
  (as in magic not needing a circle or tools to be cast, just straight natural / personal energy and intention)

  Valid, in-depth and non-fluffy information is scarce on this topic. I am curious to hear what your opinions are as this form of magic is what I seem to be able to do best on a day-by-day basis.

  In my opinion when one has a strong personal connection with Deity and the natural world, that connection circumvents the need to use a circle to communicate with them, as that would be redundant.

  Mind you; I still will cast a circle when I need that extra boost it provides during an important ritual.

• LOKIRAT writes:

  HELLO FROM THE UK!! IM LISTENING TO A FEW PODCASTS: LOVE THE ENGLISH ACCENT ON DEPRESSION SHOW AND LISTENING A FEW RANDOM OTHERS. LOVE IT. CONSIDER ME A REGULAR NOW! :)

  MERRY PODCASTING! ITS GREAT TO HEAR MY PEOPLE, TALKING WITH MY SHARED OPINIONS. OTHERS EXIST! YAY!

  ALL THE BEST, SARAH/LOKIRAT, LEICESTER,UK <:3)~~

  PS- LOVE HOW YOU ALL CACKLE SO LOUD, LOL :)

The Thelemites have an interesting saying: 93. They say this to one another so that one another knows the laws by which their interactions will be governed. However, in the absence of some interesting catch-phrase for modern Paganism and Occultism as a whole, what are the rules and boundaries by which our interactions are governed in contemporary gatherings, forums and meetings? That's what we'll be focusing this episode on, in the absence of some really cool Thelemite that would come on the podcast

• Discussions about Metaphysics
  • Our Appearance To Outsiders: must we censor the community as it speaks to the general populace just because people say things that don't as sound or look as good as we'd like them to appear to our non-Pagan/non-occult counterparts? Or is there truth to the statement "we can't learn without risking looking crazy or like an idiot?"
  • Our Appearance To One Another: By what means and to what extent should we be censoring ourselves as a community?
    • Should we go to the stereotypical extreme of B.T.W. where seemingly everything is oathbound, or to the reality of B.T.W. where censorship serves a purpose of encouraging self spiritual growth and learning to seek information rather than always having it handed to you. Or should we just let there be no censorship as to promote free communication?
    • Or should we just embrace more of a private vs. public discussion paradigm where you can say any crazy thing you want on your blog as that's "private" discussion, but anything said on a forum is fair game for censorship and rebuttal.
  • What Should We Do: staying with the tried and true and/or exploring new (possibly silly) paradigms? (Note: in the business world, paradigms seem to come and go like fads - is this also true with metaphysics?)
  • Diluting Sacred Nature: is the metaphysical losing its sacred nature as it seeps into mainstream teachings and practice? Should we be deeply concerned about this or is it okay?
  • Heated Discussion: disagreement over interpretations and practices is inevitable.
    • Should we debate ideas or a person's ability to be a proficient practitioner of their faith and/or occultist?
    • Can a person have one (or a few) ideas you think are backwards and still be respectable as a whole person?
    • In the same respect, can someone who is, otherwise a horrible dumb person, have one or two good ideas?
    • Or is it an all-or-nothing game?
    • Is it feasible to disagree without disrespecting someone. Sure, this is an ideal of forum communities, but is this practical?
    • What about fact-checking one-another? What happens when you have someone who refuses to even look up the facts and is glad to be ignorant?
    • Is it even okay to "agree to disagree"? (inspired by this thread on PaganSpace).

• For Further Listening: The Magical Earth. It's entertaining, educational (not just informative) and has very good audio quality, especially considering they have 4 hosts. If you're Wiccan, appreciate a realistic view on Wicca but are in thirst of the Wicca 201 and a podcast that feels spiritual - then you should listen to The Magical Earth!
• Final Thoughts

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• Main Topic Music: Sweet Dreamer by Jason
• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Season 10 Feed Image is by Amber
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• If you ever want to download our show before it is publicly available, join our yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/pcppodcast

• Barrett A. writes:

  I'm sending u a link to an article about the manitoba legislature building and the pagan symbolism in it. The author seems to be a crazy christian doom sayer but he's not totally of base as far as i know having lived in winnipeg all my life and having visited this building many times everything about the actual architecture such as the golden boy being a copy of a statue of hermes and the 13 steps per flight are all truly there check it out at best its an interesting laugh at worst, well ill let u decide the at worst scenario. lol

  http://www.outlawjournalism.com/news/?p=2198

• Amanda Eve Writes:

  hey guys im a kemetic from Canada and i just have a question for Amber ( the resident kemetic ) if everything the ancient egyptians did was based on the nile and nile living, how can we translate such a huge part of the religion into modern day culture and energy workings, and by the way ya'll are awesome and keep it up with the stupid people bashing.

• Hydron9801 writes:

  I very much like your show, it has provided me with entertainment and information while I'm a work. I really enjoy your skits especially the skits in episode 49 and 51. Scotch tape- Man's greatest weapon... Keep up the good work and thanks again; you guys; for this awesome podcast.

  On another note I possibly have a topic for you guys:

  Wild Magic
  (as in magic not needing a circle or tools to be cast, just straight natural / personal energy and intention)

  Valid, in-depth and non-fluffy information is scarce on this topic. I am curious to hear what your opinions are as this form of magic is what I seem to be able to do best on a day-by-day basis.

  In my opinion when one has a strong personal connection with Deity and the natural world, that connection circumvents the need to use a circle to communicate with them, as that would be redundant.

  Mind you; I still will cast a circle when I need that extra boost it provides during an important ritual.

• robbywrench on Podcast Alley writes:

  oy!

  wtg ! keep it up! the momentum is swelling!

• Magda writes:

  I totally agree about the classes topic.

  When I first started getting into the pagan religions I joined a coven that actually held classes. Since it was an eclectic coven we learned about everyone's paths. It was a very educational experience and there was a lot of discussions on books to avoid and the best historical books to use to research certain religions. Unfortunately, I haven't found any down to earth people around here that are holding classes. Researching is fun though. Libraries are fun to explore.

  Dave commentary: Houston has a lot of classes - but seeming everywhere else I've been has only taught 101 stuff

• Christina in Texas writes:

  I really love the show!! Over the past year you not only provide very informative information and really bring up points that many people probably don't think about but you guys always get me to laugh while I am at work, I always get excited when the show is downloading!!!....Let me know if you ever need more ego stroking ;-)

• Sheena writes:

  I love you!

  I sit on the train going to work, through lovely cornish countryside, and cackle to myself.in doing so, getting odd looks. keep it up.

• The PCP Effect
  • What is the PCP Effect?
  • We're in this month's issue of Pan Gaia Magazine
  • PCP Effect on Fark: Christians now paying attention to Fark for religious purposes... like we've been doing for years. Except they're doing it to interact with non-Christians.
  • PCP Effect example: Season 1: Disney is a tool to fight Paganism. Season 10: Fark Headline -- Pagans need not appl--- oh wait, Disney's got crafts for your kiddies too
• PCP New Year's Resolutions... what should we do with this PCP Effect in the coming year?

• PSA:

  VIKING SOCIETY WEB PUBLICATIONS

  The Viking Society for Northern Research is making virtually all its publications (and some other related items) from inception in 1895 to the present freely available on this web site, though recent titles may not be released until five years from the date of publication.

  A whole lot of good stuff in there for those who are interested in the period or are Asatru/Heathen inclined.

  In Frith, Spence The Elder

  Check it out at: http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/

• PSA: Grouply - a service that claims to permit you to sort all your groups into 1 mega daily digest is used to spam using your identity. Avoid identity theft, avoid using Grouply. Inspired by incidents on Pagan Yahoo Groups and this blog: http://www.ncs-tech.org/?p=1146. BTW, those TrustE certifications are completely pointless. The most they are is eye-candy that provides a false sense of security. But don't fear: PCI compliance is coming!
• Pagan Space removes all Minors from their site

• For further listening: If you're looking for yule music for next Yule, check out the last half of Episode 22 of The Dark Side of Fey
• Moment of WTF: From Australia via Fark: If your black magic healer tells you that the only way to remove your curse is to have sex with him, then go right ahead and believe him, what's the worst that could happen?
• Final Thoughts

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  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Intro and Show Description Background Music: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Main Topic Music: Sweet Dreamer by Jason
• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Season 10 Feed Image is by Amber
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• Welcome to Season 10!
• It's been a month since we told you to vote for us. You can vote for us once a month in helping us achieve a podcasting award. PCP: Pagan Centered Podcast is ranked 30 overall in Religion and Spirituality. We need 24 more votes this month to be the leading Pagan podcast.

• Dave's Rant: Intellectual Elitism and How It's Not A Bad Thing. Related Article.
• Branden's Rant

• Ivana Writes:

  Hey, I just thought you should know i really think your podcast.. even though I'm from the other half of the hemisphere I find you guys hilarious... and informative! Ahh it's so hard to find pagans where I live and my age.. you guys make me feel part of some big ass happy thing. haha. alright that was wierd.
  blessed be. Ivana.

• Sheena writes:

  I've just started listening to your podcasts. I'm really enjoying them. only up to 6 so far, but great fun. great truths, and good to see that the same stereotypes exist all over the world.

  you seem like my sort of people. I don't say that often.

  all the best.

  I have lots of catching up to do.

• Badger Angel Writes:

  Amber, Ashlee, Dave, Jason, Sam, and Brandon;

  (There, I believe I have mentioned every name, ergo, it isn't just the stereotypical "DAVE I LUV YER SHOW AND U OTHER GUYZ TOO LOLZ" fanmail) I recently discovered PCP. Y'all now make my nights at work go much faster. You actually make me think. I'd appreciate more discussion on energy work, but then, I've not listened to all of the old shows yet, so I may be missing some stuff. Thank you very much. Continue the excellent work. And just by the way, Chris Eccleston was a better Doctor. And he's going to be Destro! Yeah baby!

  Sincerely yours,
  Badger Angel

• Robby Writes:

  Hey guys! and ladies!
  I want to let you know that I enjoy your podcast immensely. On yer last episode, #87... you got the sound down nicely. I am sooo glad you got rid of that robot who did the intro thingy... especially the part where it spelled out imbleedingprofusely.com... was kind of a drag...i felt like i was a robot listener!

  Any way. i wanted to let you know I think "YALL".. are very proffessional and very entertaining. I love the vast and intelligent perspectives "YALL" have. I am not of any religion but I am very interested in the Pagan community. I am still not sure "EXACTLY" what its all about.... perhaps You all.. meaning each and every one of you could take a second to spew your thoughts on what its all about. I grew up Episcopalian.. i think thats semi Catholic. Or just a lazy Catholic.. I lost interest in it as I became a young adult. So for a couple decades now I have probably been a little lost. In a sense...

  Anyway thanks again... and keep up the awesome work you do. Keep punchin peeps in the face! And I love "YALLS" honesty... and Ashlee? i wanna have yer babies.... you ROOL!

• Barrett Writes:

  please find out the guys last name or call him something else and use it cause he's not the only pagan with the name, I'm personally not that bad.

• Alorelith Writes:

  I love your show. Ashlee is the reason I get up in the morning :D

• Alorelithrose Later Writes:

  I love your show and hope to someday be able to make the first doctor who reference of the episode ;)

• An anonymous listener writes:

  i would be interested in hearing what you guys had to say about Pagan based wedding ceremonies versus the average i do's you usually see when the couple isn't heavily christian. also whether you would go through a more pagan based ceremony even if you would have christian guests that might not understand

• Final Thoughts

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• Intro and Show Description Background Music: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Main Topic Music: Sweet Dreamer by Jason
• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Season 10 Feed Image is by Amber
• Also Syndicated By:
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• Depression.
  • Is taking Anti-Depressants a Metaphysical Cop Out?
  • How depression adversely affects and can benefit Metaphysical workings
  • How have you, personally, coped with Depression (if you've had it)

• Outrage about Prop 8 follows the money... to the Church of Mormon. Hilarity ensues.
• ActivistCash.com - Shows you all the dirt behind organizations like MADD, PETA, Greenpeace, how they went wrong and who's funding them.

• WTF of the Week: Llewellyn found a Pagan that speaks positively about Silver Ravenwolf, makes references to now defunct organizations
• Final Thoughts

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• Intro and Show Description Background Music: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Main Topic Music: Sweet Dreamer by Jason
• Other Topics, Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Podcast Feed Image: Sunset Stonehenge by Ren Ehrhardt
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• Lovecraftian Magick
  • Incorporating the Ancient Ones into your magickal workings.
  • Is Lovecraftian Magick Pop Culture Magick? Or is there something more?
  • Constructing an Altar for the Ancient Ones
• Lovecraftian Magick Articles
  • Donald Tyson essay on the Necronomicon: http://www.donaldtyson.com/nomicon.html
  • "When the Stars Come Right Again" by Dame Patricia Hardy, GME of the Order of the Trapezoid: http://www.trapezoid.org/thought/when.html
  • "Creating a Shoggoth" by Parker Ryan: http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/shoggoth.html
  • "Calling Cthulhu: H.P. Lovecraft's Magick Realism" by Erik Davis: http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/callcth.html
  • "Cthulhu Madness"(an excerpt from 'The Pseudonomicon') by Phil Hine: http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/cmad.html

• Final Thoughts

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• Final Thoughts and Outro Background Music: Future Dimension by Jason
• Podcast Feed Image: Sunset Stonehenge by Ren Ehrhardt
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• Your radio isn't broken, this really is episode 88 of PCP.
• Let's get nominated for a podcast award this year. Vote for us on Podcast Alley, we got links in the sidebar of our website. You can vote once a month, we'll remind you when to vote. Vote now!
• The comments are still coming in on Episode 86. An interesting discussion is taking place so feel welcome to visit our website right now and post your own two cents: ImBleedingProfusely.com
• We now have a fan group on Facebook thanks to Qwertos!
• Be right back after these messages

• Divination.
  • How do you define it?
  • How do you think it works? What causes it to work?
  • What are your thoughts on various types of divination?
  • How do you, personally, practice divination?
  • Divination as a psychological tool. (Dave calls it the poor man's psychologist)
  • Is divination presenting fate or possible futures or a combination of the two?

• Web 3.0 and the Occult Community:
  • Web 3.0: Drew Curtis of Fark.com fame defined Web 3.0 as a moderated version of Web 2.0. In Web 2.0, everyone can write anything they want and they are heard. Web 3.0 introduces the element of moderation where not everything is blasted out to everyone.
  • The Web 2.0 Pagan and Occult communities seem to be fading. People are just angry, usually about silly or petty things taking over an entire community. This can be groups of people getting hung up of calling bullshit, or wanting proof of EVERYTHING metaphysical or other.
  • The solution the Pagan/Occult community seems to be embracing is a modified version of Web 3.0. However, instead of individual content being moderated - it's the individuals. Only certain (usually previously trusted) people are let into these small intimate groups. If this sounds familiar, it is. It's exactly what was done in many places before the Internet.
  • Dave has noticed that usually the most tightly controlled groups are the ones that deal with topics that would likely be laughed out of other forums (e.g. Otherkin). Other groups still seem open but are openly aggressive against those they don't desire to be there - not due to personality, but due to how they hijack the group.
• November was Native American Heritage Month (no wonder there's so many pow-wows). Legislature is moving forth with what they call "A resolution recognizing National American Indian and Alaska Native Heritage Month and celebrating the heritage and culture of American Indians and Alaska Natives and the contributions of American Indians and Alaska Natives to the United States."

• WTF of the Week: Rabbi killed in his home by Mumbai terrorists was reading "How to protect yourself when terrorists come to your house."

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Announcements

• Check out our new poll: Are Pagan organizations doing enough to serve the Pagan community?
• We now have a twitter account: pcppodcast
• We have a Shelfari account. What's Shelfari and why did we get an account?
• Dave thanks everyone for the many comments in support of using y'all - thanks y'all!
• You can find all of this on our website: ImBleedingProfusely.com

Listener Feedback

Credits

• List of websites and organizations mentioned
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Pop Culture Entities in Magical Practice

Credits

• List of websites and organizations mentioned
• PCP is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 US License.
• Season 9 Credits