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Lead Topic

• Amber’s Rant: The Modern Pagan Priesthood and other fun topics (get your biohazard suits on, here come the black snowflakes!!)
  • Christian v.s. Pagan priest initiation
  • Problems with self initiation
  • Chaotic nature of the Pagan community
  • Plethora of crap information from crap authors flooding the community
  • Obsessive book quoting
  • Reliance on external "stimuli"

Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

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Breaking News

Notice Silver Ravenwolf in the press lately? It’s because she’s got a new book: HedgeWitch: Spells, Crafts & Rituals For Natural Magick (Paperback). Let’s make sure this fluff goes down the tubes with a rating of 1… out of 5.

Listener Topics

• Micky in Australia Writes:

  Hey guysI was very interested in your call for more organized action for pagan rights in the public arena as opposed to the internet and thought I’d offer my two cents.

  Though first some introduction,

  I am Micky, a follower of the Hermetic tradition as well as a number of other paths, I escaped from a pentecostal church as a teenager but still carry many christian values with me even as I identify myself as a pagan.

  As was said in episode 37, the pagan community lacks the numbers to be a serious force in of itself so we rely on other groups to sympathize with us, such as in the case of the headstone incident.

  The first step as you said is distributing pamphlets, to different places such as colleges, social centers, shopping centers etc. The trick with these pamphlets is deciding your audience, because then you need two different approaches.

  If they’re aimed to rouse pagans in the broom closet to action, then it should have sections on promoting unity between diverse pagan faiths, reasons and methods for coming out of the broom closet, how to contact the larger pagan community and how to take action.

  If they’re aimed at non pagans, it should be much more secular, making appeals based on actual experiences people have had being discriminated against, cases where laws and regulations (state law, college regulations) have been broken in the name of favoritism and discrimination, and most important of all, is why it effects the person reading, i.e a breakdown in laws preventing religious discrimination and favoritism is something affecting not only pagans but Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc etc ect, anything non christian essentially.

  Its really a matter of picking your targets and tools very carefully, and appealing to as many groups as once, in effect a multipronged assault, ensuring that even if only a small number of people from each group get involved, if you appeal to a lot of different groups, thats a lot of people.

  Then its a matter of getting them all to get involved online, yes I know we’re trying for real world change but we have to get them talking in an online setting first, they’ll be more likely to want to take part since they can do so at first from the safety of a computer, and it gives us an oppurtunity to weed out those who want to cause trouble, or just wont actualy get anything done. Then among those who do get involved and are eager to get stuff done, we can get to know them and what they can offer better, for instance it would be helpfull if this multipronged compain landed us a lawyer who wanted to support the cause.

  I myself am a graphic designer, mainly focusing on 3D animation and photoshop work, If anything in that realm of things was needed I’d be happy to help.

  Another thing to consider is to look at different religious and social groups outside paganism who may have reason to side with us and focus our efforts on appealing our cause to them.

  Since I live on the other side of the planet (Australia) I’m not exactly familiar with the particulars of different faiths and organizations in your area. (I have skype if you wanna chat, but I have to yell REALY loud to be heard all the hell way over there XD)

  But the first step with whatever organization you chose, is to try to form some kind of public relations campaign with them, if all goes well you could start hosting conferences addressed by pagans and people of the other faith/group aimed at bringing together and educating both pagans and (insert faith here), a local example I’ve seen is the crescent moon and the cross, interfaith meetings between Christians and Muslims.

  Though this might need to wait till you have a larger support base and contacts within the relivent faiths who can get you an in with the church for these conferances. But once these get rolling support should realy start growing, just have to keep it relivent to the audiences, hammer home how this effects them or ideals they hold dear, like preserving the rights they are entitled to.

  Since you’ve been active in the pagan comminity I expect I’ve said a lot you already know. Just thought I’d chip in and offer my support.I personaly have had great difficulty establishing contact with pagans in Australia since there actualy arent that many of us and as has been said on the show we generaly dont advertise.

  I love the show keep up the good work, if there’s anything I can do to contribute to the cause let me know.

  Dark/Light/Nuetral Grey/Whatever-the-fuck-ever Blessings
  Micky

• Pat writes:

  Hi again:It’s been a while since I last wrote. I thought I’d ask about the word metaphysics. As you probably recall, I asked you some time ago whether or not you accept as true the metaphysical reality of Christianity. In episode 79 you claimed that indeed you do. This raised in my mind the question then of what you mean by metaphysics. If it’s true that you hold Christianity to be a metaphysical reality on some level then you must also see yourselves as going to Hell, as you are all pagans and not followers of Jesus Christ, the figure or god which Christianity asserts to be the one and only metaphysical road to salvation from Hell. That is, unless I am mistaken as to what you mean by metaphysics. By metaphysics are you discussing a reality which exists independent of human thought and also above and beyond the physical? Considering Ashlee’s claims about the gods’ merely being parts of the human psyche idolized, as it were, it would seem that you do not necessarily believe the metaphysical realm to exist outside of human thought. Jason also does not seem to accept the view that the metaphysical exists above and beyond the physical as he answered my question regarding where gods come from by recourse to scientific laws - particularly thermodynamics (16:55 in mp3). He could just as easily have said that the gods themselves were responsible for the creation of the said physical laws from outside the universe. So, what do you mean by metaphysical? Pat

  Dave notes: Ashlee previously posted a blog entry about semantics where she discussed her definition of Metaphysics: http://imbleedingprofusely.com/archives/308.

Lead Topic

• Confidence, and its role in your metaphysical workings.

Ego Stroking

• ARIANNA writes:

  HEY JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT I THINK YOU’RE ALL A REAL RIOT TO LISTEN TO LOL.THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT ARE SAID WITH HONESTY AND BLUNTNESS,BUT YOU ALWAYS SEEM TO HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH ANY ISSUES. I LOVE THE WAY YOU GUYS DESCRIBE CERTAIN THINGS AND THE FEELING YOU PUT INTO ALL IT TOO.YOU TELL IT LIKE IT IS AND IF ANYONE OUT THERE LISTENING IS OFFENDED OR DOESNT LIKE ANY THING YOU SAY THEN I CONSIDER THAT THEIR PROBLEM AND I’M SURE YOU DO TOO! …YOU’RE CRUDE AND YOU LIKE TO SHOCK PEOPLE WITH THE THINGS YOU SAY..HEY YOU KNOW WHAT??? I THINK I LIKE THAT, CAUSE GUESS WHAT??? SO DO I! LOL :-DHAVE A GREAT AND FUN SAMHAIN GUYS!HOPE ITS A WICKED ONE!GO OUT AND SCARE THE S**T OUT OF EVERYONE! LOLBLESSED BEA.

Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

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Listener Topics

• Matthew, a Thelemic reshreacher(sic.) in Blacksburg writes:

  Big fucking show question: Ron Hutton wrote marking difference between the two; Gardnerian (Gerald Gardener) would always mark clear separation between Pagan/Wicca & Christianity & the struggle of the later against the former. Alexandrians (Alex Sanders) portrayed themselves as “warriors in a constant battle between good against evil magic.” I have mix views on this myself. These guys where before Cunningham or Buckland. What is P.C.P.’s opinion of the this old school rivalry in wicca?

  Dave notes: Sorry for the delay, it got lost in my inbox for a while

• Qwertos is building PCP: The Game and wants some ideas.
• We’ll address Micky’s topic next week as it is a bit long

Lead Topic

• Magic as a social practice?
• Mundane life and metaphysics, mixing the two.

Ego Stroking

• KSFruitBat Writes on iTunes:

  More fun than a Barrel of Mead!

  As they say in the intro, this is a group of average pagans discussing daily and common influences and news about paganism and alternative religion.

  Very humorous, with gobs of Dr. Who and other fun sci-fi jokes, 8/10 for audio quality, since sometimes the members attending via Skype are a bit fuzzy sounding.

  If you’re pagan and want more information, or just want something fun to listen to, give this a listen

• Magda Writes: (Regarding Episode 79)

  Hey,

  I see there’s finally a video game that pisses of atheists. This is so ridiculous; I knew Christians wouldn’t like it because there’s evolution in it, but I never thought atheists would care. Now I’m definitely getting the game.

  Also, I love how you guys are going after the organic food topic. I’ve gone to Whole Foods, mostly for meat without hormones, and it’s too expensive. I found a cheaper place called Trader Joe’s, that’s one of the cheaper grocery stores in NYC. It’s has a mix of both organic and non-organic.

• Ed Writes:

  If you have already seen this (attachment: Field Guide to Fluffy Paganism) I apologise - for all I know you guys wrote it! But I thought it seemed like your kind of thing. I like to use it to fluffy spot and I am ashamed to admit many pagans in the UK fit these descriptions!

  Keep up the good work - Love your podcast

  Ed

• Harlequin Writes:

  Hey - a new fan to the podcast - love it x

• Bill in North Carolina Writes:

  Great show guys. And YEA for the return of the pcms

• Edward Writes:

  Bravo to Amber in episode 81, great to hear someone speaking out against people who wear religion as an accessory. =] xXx

• Sacredor Writes on YouTube:

  Loving the show, keep it up!

• Unlike my car that is run on happiness, rainbows and gasoline - this show is run ego stroking and hate mail, so please be sure to send your feedback to us by visiting ImBleedingProfusely.com and clicking the Feedback tab at the top of the page. We haven’t had any hate mail in a long time, so please send us some!
• Announcement: Our Pagan Occult News section has been upgraded. Check out the latest Pagan and Occult news from sources we here at PCP love by going to ImBleedingProfusely.com/news

Topics of Discussion

• Theologian in UK states Christian priests wearing robes is 'absurd' and builds barriers between Priest and congregation. What role does ritual clothing play in your practice? Do you believe it is necessary?
• Dentists across the US to buy back Halloween candy from kids for $1/lb, then ship the candy to our troops overseas
• Nifty Fact: Llewellyn threatened to give out free books for Pagans to hand out in a back woods North Carolina school district if a measure to allow the distribution of Christian pamphlets was passed.
• Pwn3d, Christian Girl tries to claim she was attacked by "Satanic Voodoo Cult" - claims analyzed and thrown out since they are inconsistent. Not to mention she has a history of lieing to the police. Read The Wild Hunt Blog's Article on this. As the editor points out, the mainstream media has simply become regurgitatiors of press releases and police reports (both of which contain inaccuracies) rather than acting as professionals and do things like simple fact checking.
• From Fark: Well, at least she bought some bath salts before playing “burn the witch” in the new age shop
• From the Wild Hunt Blog: More of VP Nominee Palin's anti-Pagan ties
• From Fark: A church in the middle of a monthlong prayer festival has already racked up 10 noise citations. "I'd never be allowed to have a party for 31 days straight in my backyard." (Highlights Christian mindset that what they do should be outside the law, e.g. solicitation)

Weekly Segments:

• Final Thoughts

Credits

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  Pagan Centered Podcast by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Intro Audio
  • Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
  • Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Outro Audio
  • Outro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Segment Audio
  • Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
  • Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
• Caribou Barbie background music: Oh Snap! by Ethan (whome250)
• Skit 51 Audio (see: Skit 51 Credits)
• Podcast Feed Image: Sunset Stonehenge by René Ehrhardt
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Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

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In this skit, Ashlee implements a plan to throw a birthday party for Belial.

The following audiences will be offended:

• Those who dislike birthday parties

This skit aired in PCP Episode 82

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  Pagan Comedy Minute by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Background Music:
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  • Raging Boner of Pain and Doom by CockRider
• Podcast Feed Image: Comedy & Tragedy by Cayusa
• Sound Effects: Free Sound Project
• Writer: Ashlee

Last Updated Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:37:00 -0500 GMT

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In this skit, we discuss why there haven’t been any new skits lately and that more are coming soon.

The following audiences will be offended:

• Those who dislike shortcuts
• Those who respect the seal of Solomon
• Those who take teleportation spells seriously

This originally aired in PCP Episode 81

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  Pagan Comedy Minute by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
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• Background Music: .X.-Hyperlogic-. by XenoxX
• Podcast Feed Image: Comedy & Tragedy by Cayusa
• Sound Effects: Free Sound Project
• Writer: Ashlee

Last Updated Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:37:00 -0500 GMT

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Listener Topics

• Matt in Iraq writes:
  • Here’s a dot on your radar all the way from Iraq. I’m a Marine, currently deployed, again, to Iraq. I started listening to the Comedy Minute about a year ago, and I’ve been listening, and back listening, to the show for about a month. I’ve read alot, albeit mostly online, about different Pagan faiths since I got in Iraq in April. While I don’t know much about the pratice so much as the dogma of the faith, something inside says to dive deeper. I’m curious about what anyone knows about Paganism in the military, or what everyone feels about a Pagan serving in a Christian dominated military. Thanks for the great show, and thanks for including you listeners.

    P.S. Raptor Jesus went extinct for your sins.

Lead Topic

• Christian Bashing and Why We Do It.

Credits

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• Intro Audio
  • Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
  • Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Outro Audio
  • Outro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Segment Audio
  • Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
  • Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
• Skit 50 Audio (see: Skit 50 Credits)
• Podcast Feed Image: Sunset Stonehenge by René Ehrhardt
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Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

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In this skit, we discuss why there haven’t been any new skits lately and that more are coming soon.

The following audiences will be offended:

• ?

This originally aired in PCP Episode 80

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• Sound Effects: Free Sound Project
• Writer: Ashlee

Last Updated Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:37:00 -0500 GMT

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Pagan Fundamentalism from the Fundamentalist Perspective

• Where does this originate?
  • Novices seeking role models and finding the wrong role models.
• Who does this?
  • People who have graduated beyond Wicca 101 but have no means to further their knowledge
  • Fluffy Bashers tend to be knowledgeable beyond the 101 stuff, thus draw in these individuals
  • Tend to be truly religiously diverse groups, contrary to Pagan groups they may have encountered in person or online.
  • During this learning process is the indoctrination that fluffdom is the worst issue facing the Pagan community
• Why do they do this in the first place?
  • Curb fluffdom (seemingly police forums feeling they must not let any fluffdom go unpunished)
  • Educate others about the faith they claim to practice
  • Feel that non-Pagans will paint all Pagans with a broad brush.
    • Want to stop people from being silly and affecting the thoughts of non-Pagans about them as a person.
• Methods used
  • Operate in Packs
  • Dogma (these folks will have a very thorough understanding of the dogma, even if those understandings differ within their groups)
  • Logic
    • Logic should not and cannot accurately be used in a spiritual discussion. Inspiration, yes - but not source of knowledge.
  • Science
  • Rhetoric
  • Swarming so it seems like the supposed fluff is in the minority and thus people become susceptible to the group think of these fundamentalists.
  • Aggression by means of excessive calling of BS
  • Intellectual Welfare (bias) for theories they support or believe in themselves (especially as a group)
• Why so aggressive and insulting?
  • Feel it works. It does work for maybe 4 or 5 people out of every 100.
  • Acceptance, they feel, only promotes Fluffdom
  • Impatient because they’re on a bunch of lists and feel they must read every new/updated thread on all of them every day so must keep responses short.
  • Feel that what is said is far more important than how it is said (lack of empathy)
• Recruiting Methods
  • They find someone who knows what they’re talking about and is frustrated by only having access to Wicca 101 material
  • Invitation
  • False Association (if they don’t join, say “well, they’re like us”), typically this coerces the individual to join their cause over time. Failure to join will make you a target by the group.
• What’s the problem with this?
  • Those that do this become spiritually stagnant
  • So busy telling others that they’re too open minded, you become closed minded
  • Closed mindedness is not conducive to new spiritual experiences
• How to get someone to break the Pagan Fundamentalism habit?
  • Remind them that they have beliefs that cannot be explained without sounding fluffy
  • Separate them from the rest of the pack long enough for them to regain their sanity
  • Introduce them to non-mainstream Pagan publications that go beyond the Pagan 101 crap.
• How to know you’re not one of these predators without realizing it?
  • Are you needlessly calling BS?
  • Tolerance in moderation, too much or too little can make you a cranky individual.
  • Does it surprise you when someone outside your group of friends says something intelligent? It shouldn’t.

But What’s the Point?

• Are Pagan Fundamentalists REALLY improving the image of Paganism?
• Are Pagan Fundamentalists REALLY contributing to the education process?
• What’s the point of calling BS? Is it really contributing to anything?
  • Sometimes it’s better to let things go, then bicker over things
  • Is someone’s fluffdom really harming anyone?
  • Calling BS can re-enforce the delusions of the alleged fluff
• Replace the Bullshit Meter with a Give-A-Shit Meter

Credits

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  Pagan Centered Podcast by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Intro Audio
  • Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
  • Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Outro Music
  1. End Of Sumer Dance Mix by Matt Jones (A-New-Decade)
  2. Turbo 1
• Segment Audio
  • Ego Stroking: Time For Love! by TheCriminalDuder
  • Final Thoughts: Epic Battle Loop by XGM-Zeth
  • For Further Listening: High Tide {Loop} by DaGrahamCraka
  • Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
  • Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
  • Topics of Discussion: Whistler’s Bride (Arrangement) by Drumwar
  • Website of the Week: Modem Drumloop
  • What are Muslim Extremists Pissed off at This Week? divcrash.wav
• Skit 49 Audio (see: Skit 49 Credits)
• Podcast Feed Image: Hendry’s with Fog, Night by BURNBLUE
• Also Syndicated By:
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Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

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Listener Topics

• Magda Writes: Hey guys, I was just wondering what your views were on cursing people? Do you guys really think that there is the whole 3 fold rule? Do you think it’s more of pushing karma along?
• Pat Writes: Hey guys, I have been listening to your podcast for the past few weeks now and it’s a very funny and entertaining show. I have a few questions to suggest as discussion topics.
  1. In episode 78 you discussed catholic mass and taking notes on the symbolism in the churches. Sam said something about being exorcised by Pentecostals (around 32:05 min into the mp3). As an atheist, I was rather curious as to what she meant by this. Does Sam (or the rest of you for that matter) take the metaphysical reality of Christianity seriously? If not, what do you believe about the reality or lack thereof of the Christian world view?

  2. That Corey guy that emailed you about the cosmological argument was interesting (episode 74). I am curious as to what Corey meant by saying that gravity was disrupted since gravity is supposed to be a part of the universe as it exists now, isn’t it? It could not have existed before the universe came into being, much less been disrupted.

     I used to think about the uncaused cause alot in the past. When I used to be a Christian I just said that God must exist outside time and space and so he wouldn’t be subject to the linear timelines that we mortals in the universe are subject to. Do those of you who believe in entities like gods/goddesses ever ponder their origins? If so, what insights have you had?

Lead Topic

• Organic and “Whole” foods, Bio-foods for you Europeans
  • Smugness of natural food markets despite not being better at quality.
  • Availability of these foods
  • Price ranges
  • Advantages / Disadvantages from personal experience
  • Jason and Sam’s co-op membership, how’d that work out?

Ego Stroking

• Ryan on Covenspace writes:
  

  Hi Hi!

  Just writing to say that I love the show!

  You are all so fricking funny! Amber and Ashlee especially crack me up!

  I’ve been downloading various back dated podcasts, and download the recent ones as they come up, you’ve got me hooked!

  And, as well as being as funny as hell, your podcasts are really inciteful and having giving me great ideas for metaphysical work that I’d not considered before.

  Keep up the good work guys!

  Ryan

  (England)

Topics of Discussion

• How our different religions affect the way we see class and race in society

Weekly Segments

• Final Thoughts

Credits

• 
  Pagan Centered Podcast by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Intro Audio
  • Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
  • Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Outro Music
  1. When a Tear is Shed - F-777 by Jesse Valentine (F-777)
  2. Ice Cap Zone Remix by KujoGodOfWar
  3. James Bond Techno Remix by Ian Slider (cornandbeans)
  4. |-Ultimate Tetris Remix-| by DJ Zamli (Dj-SilenT-HunteR)
• Segment Audio
  • Ego Stroking: Time For Love! by TheCriminalDuder
  • Final Thoughts: Epic Battle Loop by XGM-Zeth
  • For Further Listening: High Tide {Loop} by DaGrahamCraka
  • Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
  • Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
  • Topics of Discussion: Whistler’s Bride (Arrangement) by Drumwar
  • Website of the Week: Modem Drumloop
  • What are Muslim Extremists Pissed off at This Week? divcrash.wav
• Podcast Feed Image: Hendry’s with Fog, Night by BURNBLUE
• Also Syndicated By:
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Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT

This episode is 57:59 long, and is 53.2 megabytes in size. Download Episode.

This Week’s Hosts

Listener Topics

• Magda writes:
  

  I now you guys mentioned Aleister Crowley, I was wondering if you The book of Laws was before Crowley went crazy. I bought the book over 7 years ago but I never got a chance to read it.

  Also the 21 Lessons of Merlyn by Douglas Monroe, in my opinion, isn’t a good intro to Druidism. Monroe likes to add fact with fiction and for a beginner it’s hard to tell. I bought the book after a fellow Druid gave me a list of Druid books and I found out later that I should’ve avoided Monroe’s book. He has some sexist views on women. And some of the rituals are a bit out there. Also its historically inaccurate which is kinda hard to pin because a lot of Druid history is hard to find. I guess its more of a tongue and cheek type of book, but its more of a book to read for entertainment. I think that The Druid Sourcebook is one of the best most comprehensive ones, also The Apple Branch byAlexei Kondratiev is a good history of the Celtic history. I have a lot of Druid books that I can’t name off the top of my head.

  So to sum it up, avoid 21 Lessons of Merlyn, sorry Amber.

• April writes:
  

  Its nice to know there are those Christians out there that don’t follow under the stereotypical idea of a Christian. Intelligent conversations are so much nicer than someone running up to you with a flier stating that if you don’t believe in God you’re going to rot in hell.

  The other day I had a Jehovah’s Witness come to one of my registers at work and hand me and my cashier a magazine all about being a Jehovah’s Witness - if I wasn’t working it would have been nice to say something - unfortunately I’m under obligation to smile and wish them on their way.

  Ashley, I would have LOVED to see the look on that guys face when you told him you were a Satanist. It would have made me smile.

• Qwertos writes:
  

  Hi PCP,

  Great show!!!!

  Here is a topic. Relate different religions to countries during the cold war. For example: Fundamentalist christians could be the USSR because they are trying to convert everyone.

  For the weekly topics you should add a book of the week.

  Has anyone read Spindrift? I have been wondering what other peoples thoughts are on this book. (sorry i forgot the author of the book).

  p.s. I have been getting a certan ‘vision/feeling’ every once in a while and I have been trying to figure out what it means but I have never been able to figure out what it is. Any ideas on how to figure it out? (to oversimplfy the ‘vision’ it kinda ‘looks’ like that windows 95 screensaver “pipes”. I cant really describe the feeling.)

  p.p.s. Sorry if I sound ‘fluffy’.

  p.p.p.s. Sorry about the jumping from topic to topic… I have really bad ADD.

  p.p.p.p.s. Sorry about all the Post Scripts.

• Taith Writes:
  

  Hello,

  I’ve listened to your podcast for a few months now. Regarding the topic of Wicca, initiation, and lineage I hope I can provide some explanation.

  I’m a member of coven, where I have completed my dedication and am preparing for my first degree initiation. I could go online to many places and list the name of my teacher and people would give me the dirt as it is known in the community. I could confirm his claims of training, and the claims of his teachers training.

  The coven I’m involved in is a Protean Coven, which has Gardnerian roots. Some Gardnerians call the Proteans family some do not. But it is easy to learn about the split.

  There is good Yahoo group for anyone wanting to get involved in British Traditional Wicca. You can run the name of a potential teach past the list moderator and find out if that teacher is blowing smoke up your tailpipe about their own training.

  The group is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amberandjet/

  Your comments about Wiccans are often correct, to a point, because there are some Wiccans that have not done any serious work on learning their path, besides buying a book or two and skimming through them.
  (* * * * * * *)

Lead Topic

• The Metaphysics of a Catholic Mass

Ego Stroking

Topics of Discussion

• From Fark: Woman performs Wiccan ceremony in cemetery after a run of good luck, inadvertently stabs herself in the foot with the ceremonial sword

Weekly Segments:

• Final Thoughts

Credits

• 
  Pagan Centered Podcast by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
  Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.
• Intro Audio
  • Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
  • Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
• Segment Audio
  • Ego Stroking: Time For Love! by TheCriminalDuder
  • Final Thoughts: Epic Battle Loop by XGM-Zeth
  • For Further Listening: High Tide {Loop} by DaGrahamCraka
  • Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
  • Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
  • Topics of Discussion: Whistler’s Bride (Arrangement) by Drumwar
  • Website of the Week: Modem Drumloop
  • What are Muslim Extremists Pissed off at This Week? divcrash.wav
• Special Thanks
  • Jason for letting us record this episode at his apartment.
• Podcast Feed Image: Hendry’s with Fog, Night by BURNBLUE
• Also Syndicated By:
  • Pagan Radio Network
  • PaganPodcasting.com

Last Updated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT