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PCP Episode 84 Released
PCP Episode 84: Modern Priesthood
Released Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:30:00 -0600 GMT
This episode is 50:21 long. Download MP3 (46.3 MB).
This Week’s Hosts
| Host | Beliefs | Location |
|---|---|---|
| Kemetic / Theurgist | Outer Banks, NC | |
| Ashlee | LaVeyan Satanism | Stroudsburg, PA |
| Branden | Science (but not Scientology) | Outer Banks, NC |
| Dave | Non-Traditional and Solitary Wiccan | Houston, TX |
| Sam | Shamanic | Hazleton, PA |
Lead Topic
- Amber’s Rant: The Modern Pagan Priesthood and other fun topics (get your biohazard suits on, here come the black snowflakes!!)
- Christian v.s. Pagan priest initiation
- Problems with self initiation
- Chaotic nature of the Pagan community
- Plethora of crap information from crap authors flooding the community
- Obsessive book quoting
- Reliance on external "stimuli"
Credits
Pagan Centered Podcast by Pagan Centered Podcast is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States License.
Based on a work at ImBleedingProfusely.com.- Intro Audio
- Announcements by text-to-speech-translator.paralink.com
- Intro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
- Outro Audio
- Outro Theme: 5th Dimension by Jason
- A Walk Down The Trail by Reasoner
- Segment Audio
- Listener Topics: Themenothol by Aaron Opfer
- Main Topic of Discussion: Flight around Planet Wind by Grillpie
- Podcast Feed Image: Sunset Stonehenge by René Ehrhardt
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Problems out the ass here.
-Chaotic nature is a good thing. (And you knew I’d argue this.)
The reason Christians are sheep? Because they’re unified, ordered, and follow the same thing.
It’s a GOOD thing for everyone to believe something different. Why? Because it keeps you on your toes. Failure to question your own beliefs is failure to learn, leading to ignorance and decay of mental process.
And everyone knows magic’s mental. You lose that mentality and you lose the magic.
Also? Why do so many people act like there is a universal truth? Why do so many people think that there’s a hidden, constant “this is the right true thingie!!” no matter what?
The universe is under constant change. CONSTANT change. This “universal truth” would not be exempt from this. Give me a good reason why it would, and maybe I’ll listen.
This truth is always changing, and it’s always different. To think you’ll grasp it for more than seconds at a time is bogus. That’s why you always try but never truly succeed in finding it. You may come to a sudden bout of enlightenment. It may take you years to finally align your current truth with the universe’s and BAM, you got it for that moment. It may take someone else seconds.
Someone may be lucky enough to get it multiple times, and others may never receive it.
I’m glad I don’t have control over my energy. It used to piss me off SO DAMN MUCH to not be able to just… put it in its place. And now? I roll with it and it does a body good.
Two things: you can lead a horse to water, but you sure as fuck can’t make them drink. You can tell someone you’re using them to their face but if they won’t believe it it’s their own damn fault.
When you let someone know, and they continue to consent, well, fuck. I don’t see a damn thing wrong with that. Some people like being hit, and others like hitting. As long as they’re both getting their rocks off, it’s nobody’s concern but theirs.
Whoopty doo, you see it and others don’t. If you don’t like it so much, do something about it and quit yapping. <3
Going back to the truth, there is no set truth. Therefore, it shouldn’t matter whether you initiate yourself or not. Someone telling you “THIS IS WRONG” is a liar. Only you know your own truth, and someone telling you “this is the right way to do it!!” needs to shut the fuck up and get off your back.
Contradiction: Our priests go to classes to make sure they’re right/If you quote off books you’re just as much of a sheep as the Christians.
Well, someone telling you in a class what’s right and what’s wrong… it’s the same thing as following a book.
And I like nitpicking because:
-I’m an argumentative person
-I like the emotions it creates when people get riled off(especially when I laugh at your anger. Delicious.)
-If you think you’re right, you’re not.
Religious Organization, period, is the biggest oxymoron. Bigger than Military Intelligence or Microsoft Works.
This is a wonderful podcast. ^_^
Ohhh, and more!!
I never got why Pagans are so closed up about their shit, and you’ve got other religions going “OMG YOU WANNA SEE MY POKEMANZ RELIGION?!?!”
I’m not trying to convert people here, but dude, there’s nothing funner than outing yourself to a group of other non-pagan people and watching them go “wwwWWWHA?!?!”
No one’s persecuting you, in the end, but yourself. And maybe the hungry, bloodthirsty, conservative televangelists, but dude, there’s so many pseudo-Satanists out there that quietly mentioning your love of the Goddess just makes them sigh and state that “We want something flashier to exorcise, sorry.”
Heehee. Never got why people need role models, either.
If I wanna be like something, I’m gonna be like something. If I needed to look up to people, that means there’s something wrong with me.
Look, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON, WHATSOEVER, that you cannot be like someone else. Physical appearance/etc aside, ever.
I like labels for people I’m not interested in. But once I’m curious, it’s more than “one label.” Of course, words are labels, mis amigos. We get a bunch of words going, and I’ll have 20 labels for you. You’re black, white, asian, irish, tall, short, sexy, ugly, fat, thin, conservative, liberal, hell, PAGAN IS A LABEL.
WOOOO. Call yourself another one, because if you hate it so much, don’t worry, I’m a masochist too. <3
I got my awesome pants at Hot Topic, and some people decided to make a forum over it.
Is there something wrong with self-indulgence in a word where you’re the only one who will indulge you?
How is there anything not sacred about slicing into the flesh of something in order to nourish your own, sacred, body?
Meat is sacred. You are meat, and meat is sacred. Everything is sacred, and nothing is sacred. You’re imbibing the blood and flesh of something that has been killed for you to live.
Doesn’t matter how much it’s been fried, battered, boiled, sauced, preserved… it died, and you’re eating it.
And don’t purify me, for the love of nothing that is holy. I think I’d cease to exist. T_T;;
My athame(s) are my fucking fingers. I am the holiest thing to me, and my energy flows through those fingers. And nobody fully knows what sorts of fucked up things I’ve done with those fingers. Hehehe.
Athames are used to direct energy. You can hold your hand out and it’ll work.
The only reason you need pomp and ceremony, after all, is to distract your rational conscious mind so the real magic can happen subconsciously. If you can distract your rational mind WITHOUT using a fancy-ass, ritual-use only, athame, so be it. Plenty of people do magic everyday without them.
Zeus fucked… anything. I’ll sure as hell give him some beer and some chips, and ask him to come on down ala Bob Barker style.
All deities are, after all, are super-beings created by the thoughts of millions of sentient beings. They’re thought-memes! Giant fucking memes, given sentience and power by their worshippers.
If I wanted to view Jesus as a asian lady holding a cigar, well, damn, there you go. Same with anything. It’s the symbolism in your own mind that counts.
That’s magic for you.
I don’t like the laziness that comes with a lot of pagan groups. There is a certain feeling of accomplishment when you do things that hard and not quick and easy way. It’s more fulfilling spiritually and mentally.
Maybe it’s just me, but I love to learn and do things that are hard. I like the challenge and the feeling of authenticity, if that makes sense.
Yeah, your pants are awesome.
http://SimimsPants.ImBleedingProfusely.com